I hope John McBain and Natalie get back together. Let's keep the suckage on this show together. Easier to FF.

OMG, I can't stand Starr. I want someone to backhand this child. She's a busy body. She has to be involved in every storyline.

So is Cutter Tina's kid or something?

David talking to Mattew!! Great stuff. David's line about Bo and Nora. "They look like something the cat threw up... speaking of Blair, she says hi" Had me laughing out loud.

The tale of two Todds is awesome! I am torn because I love both actors!

I am looking forward to the scenes between Nora and Destiny today. Should bee good stuff.

Great idea liason4real! I'm loving OLTL so much right now!

I'm enjoying every minute of Roger Howarth's return. I especially love his scenes with Kassie DePaiva, Erika Slezak, and Kristen Alderson! The "Two Todds" story is awesome can't wait to see what happens next!

Loved the scenes with Destiny and her mom. The young actress who plays Destiny has really come a long way! I hope they don't rush this storyline and explore the issue from all sides. It will be really interesting to see how Nora and Bo react.

My ONE complaint is that AWFUL AWFUL BRAT JACK!
Starr: "I'm sorry Mom"
Blair: "Why are you sorry? I'm the one that gave birth to him."

No kidding Blair! LOL!

Thanks Rose!

Okay, I just finished watching today's show and all I can say is Irene is one tough cookie. Bye bye Agent Baker.

Starr still looks like she's 12.

Nora broke my heart when she got on her knees and started begging Destiny to allow her and Bo to raise their grandchild. I feel sorry for Destiny who is now looking at maybe having her baby's grandparents (Bo/Nora) raise her child.

I really wish Kevin (DG's version) was back in town.

I like TK, but at this point is he even really needed on the show? I thought Baz went to France two weeks ago and hopefully he won't come back?

I dont even like nora and she got to me today. Poor destiny, how do you say no to nora on her knees sobbing?

Loved the tnb scenes. THey still have the magic.

Kind of surprised that blair and tea arent fully invested in the todd they would each want and need to believe is the real deal. Tea should want tsjtodd to be real and blair should want rhtodd to be real and Im surprised that neither is just believing what they want to believe the way we've seen jack.

At first, I was annoyed with Nora for asking Destiny such a thing. But by the end of the episode she got to me! I feel bad for both of them.

I agree about TK, Tomas is kind of a waste. Plus it's all about Blair and TODD! Sorry Tomas!

Agreed, agreed, agreed! LMAO!!! I like TK too, but the moment RH signed on that dotted line, my Original Recipe Todd and Blair love was reborn, LOL! Poor Tomas just comes off looking like a sad puppy in each scene with her. I dont know if it's the writing or what, but he just looks so pathetic, i'm not digging it in the least. And dude, after all the stuff that went down, you tell her that you're falling in love with her the same day??? You're not RHTodd, that stuff's just NOT gonna fly! Besides, that kiss between RHTodd/Blair last Monday... wow, they still have IT, just nothing compares to it, nothing. Everything before and after was totally OVER the moment he planted one on her and she kissed him back, to the point where HE had to pull away... "I dare YOU to ever forget me... I dare you..." I'll be dead if we ever get a love scene... dead.

And lordy, Jack taking anyone's side, does he even count??? lmao… I loved the look on everyone’s face at the clone theory though… and shockingly AT played it well. It was like he was so serious in what he said, saying he read about it happening to some woman in Springfield (Reva, heh), but the line was so comical and he was so for-serious... funny.

Also, by the looks of yesterday's episode with RHTodd/Viki... wow, I just love their dynamic together. When she almost broke down when he said she hadn't even offered him a hug, I just started crying like a damn sap...

I'm actually interested in the "Destiny's Child" storyline and I cant believe it, because i certainly wasnt when it began... glad she's thinking about this and not trying to go all MTV's Teen Mom or wanting the baby to hold onto Matthew for herself, or something.

You know, I really wish TSJ had stayed on the show after watching the discussion between Toddy#1 and Jessica about Natalie and twins. Oh well. It would have been totally awesome.

Yes, I think that TK is a really good actor, but I would rather have TSJ and RH both on the show duking it out for years to come with Viki, Blair, Tea, Starr, Jack, Sam, etc all taking sides at some point. There is nothing like good soapy family drama. OLTL leaned way too far over to the Buke side of story telling and seemed to forget about the Lord side of the show.

I really feel for Destiny since she had a crush on Matthew the very first time she met and like she said on the show, they never went on a date! Now the baby face teenager is pregnant and didn't use protection. I just hope that Matthew wakes up from his coma.

The SON ratings are in and last Monday's show had over 3,000,000 viewers!

We'll be at the morgue together! That kiss was AMAZING! Their chemistry is still off the charts! Siiigh love love love!

RH Todd has be cracking up with his "Vicki/Nicki, Jess/Tess" and when TSJ Todd showed up and he was inhaling that huge sandwich. LOL!

I hope Destiny's teen pregnancy is handled better than Starr's. Starr never comes off as a struggling teen mom. We hardly ever see her with Hope, someone is always around to babysit and Starr didn't even give Hope a second thought before she went to spend the night and James'.

lmao, RoseNylund!!!! I'll get the glass caskets ready for the funeral! I had hoped that after all these years, RHTodd/Blair would still have "IT"! I mean, when he left and came back in the past, it was always there, but it had been 8 years and I thought, OMG, will they still have "IT"... dammit, they could just be in a room together and set off the fire alarms!!! Clearly, they never lost it!

I literally laughed aloud when RHTodd full on laughed about Viki/Niki, Jess/Tess... and when he was faking DID, he had Rodd, LMAO, so the rhyming runs in the family! And then when he walked out with that sandwich and TSJTodd looked at him then turned away, I swear he was trying to keep from laughing! OMG, today they are on and HILARIOUS together with David! Their scenes had me cracking up!

Sigh... it's still hard for me to take Starr as a mother. Lordy, these days, she's struggling to keep her legs closed… well, I guess she’s not struggling anymore, lol. When they get her out of doe-eyed relationship mode, I love her. But put her with a boy, and she loses all momentum…. Funny enough, Destiny and Matthew would probably make better parents!

GHfan-4now...I spit ice cream all over my shirt after reading the comments about Starr keeping her "legs closed"! Starr in a relationship is snooze worthy at best!

David with the two Todd's was hilarious! I could totally by Toddy#1 and Toddy#2 being twins a la Jess/Natalie with all the crap that Toddy#1 did over the years and then add in all of the stuff from Toddy#2. Viki would have probably ended up permanently in St. Anne's if both men had been in Llanview at the same time!

Destiny. Oh, that poor baby is going to have a baby.

The slap that Mrs. Evans delivered to Nora was shocking! Shocking! I rewound the tape four times to watch that slap! I can not wait until money to watch Nora and Mrs. Evans get busy!

ROTFLMAO, Liason!!! I can't stand Starr when she's in relationship mode, it becomes all about the boys. And... ugh. It's hard to even hear what she's saying when she's laying up all nekkid with a boy beneath the sheets. I kept screaming for her to put her damn clothes on if she wanted me to hear whatever she had to say about her daddies Manning, LOL. And dont even get me started on James trying to cover his 'business' with a pillow.

LOL, poor Viki having to deal with the Two Todds as brothers if they were in Llanview at the same time... Surely, she would've split into some other alter. I'm thinking a Jean/Tommy/Princess/Niki combo...

DAYUM! That slap Mama Evans gave to Nora made MY head hurt, lol. Nora swung around and almost fell on her damn azz, she was hit so hard! I swear I felt that slap through my TV. Note to self: Dont piss off Mama!!!!

I posted under the Ratings and Rants thread that the slap from Momma aka Mrs. Evans started out in New Mexico and ended up in New York!

Sigh. Is it Monday yet? Grrrrr. I can't believe I want the weekend over so that I can watch OLTL!

That was an EPIC slap from Momma Evans! I thought Nora was going to fall on her ass too! LMAO! I can't wait to see her and Nora go at it!

Love the two Todds and David. "We Todds don't take to threats!" LOL! Roger will always be my Todd, but I wish TSJ was sticking around because the two Todds causing mayhem in Llandview would be a hoot! Can't wait for Clint to move in and see who Vicki's houseguest is!

If it wasn't for OLTL, my TV would have a shoe thrown at it because of that mess formerly known as Y&R! Maria Bell take notes, THIS is how you write a soap!

I changed the OLTL thread title for this week's shows...

Momma Evans and Nora's discussion about Destiny was right on target. I liked that Nora suddenly realized the pressure that she had put on a 17 year old teenage girl.

I thought Viki was going to smack Todd#1 and Todd#2 upside the head.

Blair and Tea's hissing contest over kissing Todd#2 was awesome. I expect both ladies to come out swinging real soon about their men...lol

McBain tries too hard at trying to be a tough bad azz cop.

Okay, Irene's story of the CIA made zero sense for me. It was really over the top.

I wish Farah and hair would go and what's "spotted pony"?

The "spotted pony"? I'm guessing that it has something to do with Kim?

Gigi with the lip gloss and now funky hair color is why it didn't bother me that she bit the dust.

The whole rogue CIA cover s/l about Todd#1 and Todd#2 had me rolling my eyes. It was campy, ludicrous and probably true!...lol

Anyway, OLTL is a rocking and I can't get enough!

Baz. I was so hoping that Baz was gone for good!

Given that cray-cray of an explanation from the Head Bitch in Charge yesterday, color me SHOCKED the face transplant actually made sense! LOL But... WTF with cutting his face BEFORE then realizing AFTER about Mitch??? She is one twisted b*tch to the extreme. Oh! and notice she had the SAME haircut and OUTFIT 8 years ago! LOVE IT!

Yesterday's show had me on my azz, lmao!!! I watched it twice. I haven't laughed this hard since the Hold the Diploma premier. Have mercy, that explanation was so effing ridiculous, but hella funny. MAN, I just cant get over it, this Irene is one cold bitch! She should've STAYED DEAD! I felt so bad for Todd/Victor today, wow, they both had me just feeling SO SO bad for them. And Viki trying to be comforting was so sweet... But omg, no wonder they're both so f*cked up, look at where they come from??? One was tortured for 8 years, one was cut up and sent away to become his brother... seriously, WTF with this woman??? Sick and beyond twisted she is and so, SO cold and distant! And WTF IS IT that was so often asked about??? I think it might be the diary, but I'm not too sure. And even if that is IT, WTF with putting her kids through all of this??? GAWD, she's effed up! And she's not even DONE???

OMG, the Spotted Pony... me thinks we will soon see Kim, too, Liason. Just a hunch, I haven't read outside spoilers for this week on the other storylines, but I feel like she's going to play into this somehow.

And.. Gigi, for real... didn't know you could still be stylish, AD.

I just love this show, seriously campy--and that WAS some CAMP yesterday if I ever saw some, lol--one minute and breaking your heart the next with the performances... now comes, the fall out... damn.

GHfan-4now...The sad thing is Viki would have made sure that her siblings were put in Victor's will. Irene is a moron. An evil and twisted moron!

Heck, even if Victor, Jr. had shown up and explained to Viki what was going on and that he was Todd's twin brother then she would have given him some of the Lord money. Now, we all know that Tina is a loose cannon which is why Victor stated in his will for Viki to take care of her sister!

I miss Kim...and Fish and Kyle!

Irene is a cold bitch. Can't believe she did all those things and for a reason that doesn't even make sense.

When I saw Baz on Tuesday's episode I was disappointed that he returned from Paris or wherever he went. Then I read that Baz would be leaving soon(and this time for good) and that feeling of disappointment turned in to happiness.

Ok here. If Irene hated Todd why did she not just kill him. Instead she holds on to him for 8 years? For what? I wonder if there is someone above her, the guy she mention is really pulling the screens. Also if I recall Victor just came right out and told Star he was Todd because she did not like him.

I wonder what Irene means it is fall from over? Is it possible that RH Todd is a fake too? (Remember we say him going through training with the pictures of Todd love ones.)

With TSJ leaving I have a feeling sooning or later RH will be playing both roles...

Baker kept trying to obtain some type of information from Todd#1 while he was chained to a chair.

Todd#2 is losing it! Wow. I was totally impress with TSJ's acting choices today as a man not sure what to believe. Is he really Todd or Victor? Is Irene just a manipulative con woman looking to get her hooks on the Lord money? Why would any mother do such insane things to her children?

I really wish TSJ was staying on the show as they make the move to PP.

GHfan-4now...The sad thing is Viki would have made sure that her siblings were put in Victor's will. Irene is a moron. An evil and twisted moron!

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Exactly. Bytch is just totally cray-cray!!! With a mother like that… damn….

OMIGAWD!!!!! Today was so good again, totally makes up for the BSC explanations from Mommie Dearest, lol! Todd1 with Hope and Starr, Todd2/Vic trying to make plans for his family… omg, I feel so bad for him, truly. He is just… wow, trying so hard to hold onto everything. I mean that mother. I just can’t say enough terrible things about her that equate to how I truly feel. And this was just THURSDAY! Tomorrow with the bigger fallout, I feel like I'm going to spend the entire hour biting my nails and watching with wide eyes... lol.

I almost want to pull my hair out, that the show is this riveting. I literally can’t wait to watch everyday, it’s like a nighttime soap or something, lol…

And Halle-LU-YER to Baz being out! See ya, dude!

Well I assumed from the start RH would be real todd....BUT...if Irene couldnt care less about Todd and put Victor in so that a. he could do rouge cia agent stuff for her and b. so victor, the son she kept and with whom she bonded (or at least as much as she was capable of) could get what she wanted....

um...

why would she out victor as the fake? Assuming she had ANY loyalties to EITHER son, the son she would care about would be victor, so wouldnt she have an interest in saying victor was the REAL todd (thus making rh Todd the brother and tsj the real todd)

Wasnt it odd that vicki has been acting like this whole thing matters to her relationship with todd? It matters to the men, but for vicki, they would BOTH be her brother. The idea that she couldnt hug todd 1 until she knew whether he was todd or todd's twin brother seemed confusing.

And if Irene is involved in anti-us activities and is, in general, the "big bad" AND if she is a trained professional liar - may I ask why 3 journalists and a trained investigator all believe her fairly readily?

I agree with your total post EET. I thought EXACTLY ALL of the same things you posted.
I still think RH will end up to be the real Todd though. The reason I say that is...the wedding earrings. RH's Todd recognized the earrings from seeing her on TV at the premier...where as when Blair said to TSJ's Todd..do you remember these...and he said no why should he remember her jewelry in typical smart alecky Todd style...Any man that gifts a woman jewelery before their wedding would remember that...The writers put that in their for a reason..even if they let it drop for now.

Irene may have been able to transfer all the important memories, but it is the little ones she would have no idea of... that will trip up Victor.

Todd#2's comment about the earrings didn't bother me since he's into Tea and could care less what Blair was babbling about!...lol

Maybe Irene gave up Todd#2 as Victor since she's still looking for some type of information that she thought Todd#1 had? IDK!

I guess I just dont know why todd2, vicki and john werent more disbelieving. And I guess I wanted vicki to say before Irene blathered on that no matter what both men were her half brother and that her relationship wasnt going to change with either of them and she would help them both through this no matter what the truth was. It would have been nice to remind them that THEY were brothers to each other after the truth came out and given some absolution to todd 2 for not being guilty in all of this because really he was brainwashed for his entire life in one form or another and while he knew at the start he wasnt todd when he was learning the "memories" its not like, at least to me, that he had the option of saying no. I wish vicki had offered to go with todd 2 to break the news and have him turn her down. Thats more true to Vicki's character IMHO.

Well, Irene's last comment before leaving Llanfair was that none of this was "over". My guess there is still tons of story yet to unfold with Todd vs Todd.

I really wish TSJ was staying because I can see a lot of messy stories to come with Sam, Starr, Hope, Jack and Danni going back and forth from Todd#2 to Todd#1 as their father.

Yeah, Viki was more into Todd#1 even though she spent the last eight years with Todd#2. Both men are her half brother!

Okay was anyone watching when Katrina Karr was on? What was that storyline about?

Karen Wolek's sister Jenny Vernon was pregnant and so was ex-hooker Katrina Carr. Karen and Marco/Mario Dane switched Jenny's dead baby with Katrina's healthy baby. Katrina eventually found out that her baby was alive and living with Jenny.