Jasam-I can remember "drooling" over Rick Hearst when he was paired off with Sonja Satra on GL as Alan Michael Spaulding and Lucy Cooper. After they wrote them off, is that when he found his way on to DOOL? I know I was thrilled when he showed up on GH.I loved him being paired with NLG. And, then, as with so much on this show, it all went south... And all I can do is...sigh...
Raven has a new post up. She says 2 men out this fall. Also a shocker in one of the actresses who will leave.
Daytime Dish says Sam is already pregnant and will not be by the time Franco is done with her.
They also say General Hospital is over next April.
Rumour of one of the families being completely eliminated from the show - maybe the Cassadines?
Ronan is coming soon, replacing Lucky. Read that Robert Kelker Kelly is coming.
Luke and Laura together again, with Anthony and Tracy as comic villains. I don't think I believe this one.
wow what a great potential ending to gh...sam loses her miracle baby at the ends of a serial killer, the cassadines disappear, and tracy is tarnished permanently by being paired with a psychotic madman.
F*** Garin Wolfe if its true...seriously he makes guza look like shakesphere
These Spoilers/Rumors come straight from a GH Confidential Source:
- Lexi Ainsworth's Kristina Corinthos has a relapse. Kristina leaves Port Charles to go to a rehab, and when she comes back, her character will be recast with a new actress in the role.
- Gina Soleito will be showing up on the show sometime late fall, early winter. The role has not been casted yet.
- NuDOC (Dr. Eween Keenan) will be showing up in town, involved with Julie Berman (Lulu) and Scott Reeves (Steven). He also has strong connections with NuDOC#2 (Maggie, rumored to be Woman In White).
-Johnathon Jackson (Lucky Spencer) could deffinately be on his way OUT when his contract expires in November.
- Kimberly McCullough (Robin), Jason Thompson (Patrick), Jason Cook (Matt) ARE SAFE! Despite what many rumors say. Their storyline follows throughout January 2012. Brianna Brown's Lisa Niles WILL be killed off this November.
- I'm hearing when Brianna Brown's Lisa dies, a whodunit story kicks off and follows into 2012 involving many people. All these people have the motive to kill her, so WHODUNIT? Suspects: Robin, Patrick, Maxie, Matt, Liz, Olivia, and Steven.
- Unfortunately, I hear from multiple sources that GENERAL HOSPITAL's final airdate will be in September 2012. The Cast and the crew has supposedly gotten their warning, and ABC has told them all to keep mum. I'm hearing Garin Wolf will be writing for a small stint, and Bob Guza will return at the end to wrap up GH.
I try to make sure to apply the "grain of salt" proviso to all the spoilers I
read, so as not to be disappointed when some don't come to pass. The one about
Sam is terribly cruel. Whether you care for her character or not, this treatment is simply too much if it pans out. I can't imagine anyone wanting to see this story. The Liason fans have had to deal with seemingly endless slights and insults. Is this the writers way of making things even out so that Sam gets her
fair share? Is this something that, for sure is "in the can" and taped already?
Or can we call and register our displeasure? Is there any way this spoiler can be verified? This is just upseting to me and not just from a soap point of view...
The spoilers about Sam are beyond disgusting. I don't know who's story-boarding this tripe, but whomever that person is, he is a perverted creeper--be it Frons or Wolfe. If during the time that GH has left, TPTB cannot bring back our favs and give us the stories we want (a la OLTL), they should pull the plug right now. Anyone with even the slightest bit of character would be ashamed to produce this sh*t. If they stopped production right now--and never shot another episode, I would be set free.
Just mixing in a bit of new spoilers. Credit goes to ABC Hotsheet, WUBS, and SID.
♥♥♥♥♥♥ SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS! ♥♥♥♥♥♥
*Lisa is back and crazier than ever. Remember when she at least had something resembling a conscience? Not anymore! And when Patrick, Robin, Elizabeth, Matt, Steve, and Olivia embark on a cruise to celebrate Matt's achievement, Lisa crashes the party, with deadly results!
*And it's not JUST a murderous rampage going down on the boat. Before Lisa strikes, look for a surprising romantic encounter for Elizabeth and Matt! And with Maxie stuck back on the mainland, can Spinelli get her to forget about Matt and think about him again?
*New Doctor Maggie has ties to someone in Port Charles. MAJOR ties.
*The NuDoc is in town to cause trouble.
*Jason and Sam have to deal with Carly crashing their honeymoon. While Jason and Carly have it out, though, Sam ends up bonding with Joslyn. Another sign that Sam wants a baby? Meanwhile, the ever-present threat of Franco looms.
*Will Sam remember everything Franco did to her?
*Ethan continues to snoop around Wyndemere, and he tells Lucky and Luke about the weird goings-on with Laura's portrait. What exactly IS going on in that mansion? Meanwhile, Lulu once again turns to alcohol to cope with her misgivings about marrying Dante.
*Kristina needs physical therapy.
*Sonny and Kate go to Bensonhurst to exorcise Sonny's Demons.
*All this, plus Kate and Sonny's rekindled courtship leads to a wild encounter at Jake's with Kate's most recent flame, Coleman. Don't miss it.
Thanks Jasam. Glad your're not totally AWOL. Trying to "keep the faith"
@Swan-Yes, I am still around. I am glad you at least have some faith in GH, because I really don't. At this point, I don't care who they bring back to the show. Also I am hearing there are a lot of outs comming up.
Jasam-Thanks for the spoilers. And...it's nice to see you're still around. I wish I could be nicer about the state of affairs on GH, but I can't. Yuck, just yuck!
Tealita-Glad you and I are in agreement about the wretchedness they have planned for Sam. I can't say that I favor her over Liz(I like them both but for different reasons), but this "story" they have on deck for her is just putrid. Otherwise, it's good to see you darlin'!(liked your assesment of Lucky on the re-cap for the
Hey everyone, I just wanted to say (since I posted the original putridness!!) that I don't believe that drop. I think the more likely one is that Sam is drugged, Franco takes compromising pictures and leads Sam and Jason to believe that she was either raped, or roofied into sex and a WTD storyline will emerge. Remember, that drop was from Daytime Dish and they get all kinds of liars over there.
But the newest ones that I do believe are that Kimberly McCullough is leaving, Kirsten Storms is leaving and possible Laura Wright.
Also, it looks like Jonathan Jackson will leave as well.
I read rumors that Stavros will be back, Genie Francis and Anders Hove.
Kristina will be SORASED. As far as the family disappearing, that was totally a guess on my part since only Alexis seems to be left. It could just as easily be the Scorpios, or the Quartermaines or the Spencers.
Swan I am 4 days of epis behind and having trouble mustering up the desire to watch even though my favorite couple is on their long waited honeymoon because of the writing and the spoilers. I just want to say EVERY fan base has been shit on over the years so if they see this as "evening the scales" then obviously the writers have forgotten the summer of sleaze where they had sam sleep with her stepdad, threaten kids in the park, watch while a crazy lady took jake, AND suddenly added a backstory that turned her in to a major con artist ( a new backstory that she could NEVER have carried out given the other bits of her backstory we already had - not enough time, the cops not tumbling to her alias, the info not coming up in sasons background check etc. etc). The PERMANENTLY damaged what arguably is a character that should be one of the shows leading heroines given the bravery she has demonstrated over her years in PC.
And you know, I might be able to live with a rape story IF tiic had demonstrated that they could do it justice and hadnt done that story to death in the last ten years or so AND wasnt being told at the same time as Lisa's return and anthony's madness against the Qs
I also hate that they are potentially doing this while at the same time destroying my tracy, replacing Krisitina unnecessarily and backburnering alexis, not to mention core families like the Qs and the Cassadines.
Swan--I'm surprised that you or anyone for that matter approved of my comment RE: Lucky. I thought for sure I'd gone too far.
EET,Tealita,Supramom-Thanks for your responses. I think what gets to me is the seemingly gratuitous violence that has infected the writing.(Not just GH; Y&R is another sore spot with me currently.) I agree that if they are going to present a story invoving a rape then they better get as much as possible "correct" and not leave anything out that causes one to question the validity of the situation or the outcome. It's not limited to sexual violence. All of the mob stuff, the (poorly written) psychological horror that is Lisa Niles, and the various
"character assasinations" we (and their portrayers) have had to suffer through just reveal that whoever is "greenlighting" this stuff really doesn't have a clue about romance and intrigue. Or they just don't care. Or they think that writing this type of thing is going to gain them an entrance to a primetime/film writing slot. So what do they do? They pen something that sinks the traditional platform that daytime drama presents so they can replace it with vapid, talk and reality show gibberish. Lately, I'm watching more out of defience and as I mentioned in another post because I want to support the cast(and crew), who are having to deal with some slop material. Sorry for ranting and if I've offended anyone I apologize...
Apparently, others feel GH is unwatchable as well. For the recent posted ratings, GH lost 348,000 viewers. I think the number will just keep dropping.
GH is so bad right now that I actually feel insulted. It's like they have a bet going on over there to see how bad they can make the show, and to see how low the ratings will go.
@Tealita-I totally agree with you.
And what kills me is the haters are going to say that the 350K drop is all on jaSam and not on scrubs, violence, bad writing, franco, lisa and anthony OH MY and all the other crap thats airing right now. I LOVE JaSam and if they gave us half the humor and pathos that they did when she lost the baby the ratings wouldnt be in the toilet, but this is dreck. Carly taking the baby to where franco is going to be?? babyKate and old man mo are suppose to be the same age? Kristina has to be recast because Lexi doesnt have big boobs...oh hey but lisa does so lets bring her back. SMDH...if anyone calls out pairings for this mess I am going to lose my marbles. Im sorry but what pairing IS working right now. The could rejigger every romance just by putting every female character in one hat and every male in another and pulling out names and the show would be no better and no worse than it is now. Jason and ANY FEMALE would still lead to yet another messed up, mysoginistic (sp?) rape story because thats the franco jason story they want whether the woman being attacked is sam liz lulu or maxie. Do we really want to see any of these women sexually assaulted AGAIN. Its sad, but sans the falconari women what female characters havent been sexually assaulted in some form or fashion..thats not good tv. Would seeing liz molested or maxie molested really increase viewership? Of course not, because its not the characters or the pairings its how the show as a whole is being written and theres not a single female character that I want to see in this horrific mess of a plot. In fact, hell yeah, bring back liason because kelly and sam deserve better than to be francofiled.
I personally would rather that this whole part 2 of Liz/Lucky/Nic and Jason and Sam is all a dream that Jason is having during his coma. These two have been front and center s/l's that have done nothing in improving GH ratings. This means a huge change in the canvas must occur. What better way that a coma wake up. I want Jason to be equal Q and Morgan. I want him to at least quit being a hit man. I want this show to stay on regular tv because I really don't think many of the main characters will move to cable since many have other avenues to take as far as incomes. Plus I think Liz has been given this awful rock around her character. I don't like the whitewash of 1 female at the expense of making a female from core family get bashed. I also DO NOT want a triangle. I did like the hint of Robin and Patrick enlarging their family. Give us Steve as COS his grandfather was a core of the original GH.
How was Sam (which is what you are implying) whitewashed by the god awful story that they gave Liz when sam's story had NOTHING to do with liz. Liz boinking her brother in law at the expense of her children didnt make Sam seem more noble or give her any redemption. In fact, I think they redeemed sam mostly through her almost year long groveling session, her saving the life of the woman that owned the house where ians bags were stored, her heroic actions in the toxic balls story (as stupid as that story was, sam was still once again portrayed the way she had long been conceived - as heroic) her saving Jake and in her taking down jerry's drug ring as well as through jason and alexis' forgiveness. Except for the jake story - which didnt make liz look bad at all - none of that intersected with liz's storyline. I would argue that after the complete destruction of the sam character to make liason viable, the only way they COULD redeem her was slowly over the course of time.
I dont get why some liz fans have to make the ratings and writing woes all about one character. The writers dont want to pull Jason out of the mob. I dont know why, but they dont. If Jason woke up in 2007, repaired with Liz, these writers have shown that they are so incredibly limited in terms of their imagination that they would just introduce franco all over again and the story would be Liz drugged in the shower and left to wonder if she had been sexually assaulted. Do you think really that would improve the ratings?
We ALL can come up with major ways to shake up the canvas that includes our favorites being front and center - for one I would love to see Robert turn out to be Sams dad and when he finds out that sam is dating a mobster he gets the goods on jason and sonny. Robert could force sonny to continue in the mob but as an informant while demanding as part of the deal that jason come to work with sam at the WSB. If you look at your requirements for a better gh, Steve could still be COS, jason STILL could reconnect with the Qs AND jason would be out of the mob. Bring back robert and hopefully anna for a triangle with alexis would be the proverbial icing on the cake. Plus with jason out of the mob and Sonny somewhat neutralized, it opens the door for the return of jasper jax.
Unfortunately, the writers wont write that any more than they will write what you propose. And, for the record, the Hardy's and the Webbers havent been relevant to the canvas in eons. Sam meanwhile is a Cassadine and while they have ignored the fact that alexis and her davis clan are all cassadines, the family as a whole continued to be of major important to the canvas until relatively recently (and may in fact be resurrected as part of the LIW story) Both the Hardys and the Cassadines have been HISTORICALLY important but only the latter has been key to the modern history of the show. To me, that makes BOTH women/characters important to the show. Pinning anything on kelly or sam is just silliness. I mean really if you think just going back in time would help the show, how about tamara braun going up the stairs and shes simply imagined everything she saw from the time she went up the stairs - no jb's carly, no mental breakdown, liz still married to GV's Lucky and carrying jax's baby, no aiden, no jake, no destruction of sam, rexis still together...and I believe ratings were then at about a 3.0.
I'm usually the last one to know anything, but just in case not everyone heard, Genie Francis made a statement that she is NOT returning to GH. You can read the latest here:
So, what's with all the Laura anvils? TPIC busting our chops, or is all this about giving Luke MORE revisionist crap to spout?
Tealita-I've read that little "tidbit" too, but I've also read that Laura does come back. Should that happen (and I'm praying she does come back), I have a suspicion that there will (again) be some history "twisting" to explain Luke's
"revised version". I have to rewatch todays offering as there were some things that didn't "ring true" compared to what I remember. Which means I'll be asking
some of you to refresh my memories...
Swan--Everyone has a favorite character, and Laura is mine, with Bobbie following a close second. I could have gotten over the loss of both of them, it their exits had been handled properly. Bobbie is locked in the med room somewhere, and Laura, well...she's out there somewhere.
Genie Francis was shafted; no two ways about it. I get why she doesn't want to come back. But there are those of us out there--maybe a little older than some--who still grieve her loss. Constantly teasing us in story and allowing rumors to persist about a return for her, is like putting salt in our wounds.
Laura was a wonderful mother; one of the best in soaps. Her kids have more than needed her. If she aint comin' back, then put an end to this nonsense.
EET, don't worry the 350,000 viewers lost are not on Jasam or it would have been obvious also the week before that was a Jasam week. The week GH lost 350,000 and was dead last was the LANTE week with the horrible promo about the price to pay for "loving a cop" (except that Dante got shot because he DIDN'T behave like a cop!!!). There was a word which was spread (started with the core Lulu fans and we got momentum by reaching to some other fan bases representatives who we know hate Dante. Thanks by the way to some of the posters here who agreed to not watch and spread the word to boycott even if I know that they don't love Lulu
There was also a large letter campaign to reach TPTB, GW and the mags also I doubt that Frons or Wolf are blaming Jasam for the pathetic ratings. it was a LANTE promo, LANTE got the most airtime that week. If you have to blame one specific pairing in particular for the severe drop, it was not Jasam. We did what we do each time they promote a LANTE day or week. WE BOYCOTT. That's why the "Lante make love" got the worst sweep ratings ever with 1.8... Same for their opera date. Same for the proposal. Check the numbers and the ratings. People seem always to think that only the Jasam or Liason fans can have an influence on the ratings... Once again check the ratings of each day Lante was specifically promoted, you may have a surprise some other fanbases can weigh on the ratings (and I know you are no Dante fan...)
We are patient but we won't give up until Lante is done or the show is over as Dante is not worth sacrifying a legacy character like Lulu and JMB deserves so much better...
Sorry Swan, once again not against you. But let the figures speak for the right reasons...
Double post sorry...
@alexrochet-I thought that was a heavy Lante week with the proposal and Dante's shooting included. It could not have been all Jasam as the ratings increased before and during the wedding. I think just about every fanbase is frustrated, throw in the terrible writing and I can definitely relate to viewers jumping ship. Also, not sure how much affect it had on ratings, but this was also the week or that Friday, that it was confirmed Lexi was out.
For you Lulu fans to ban together like that is amazing. I give you much props, because I do think it does have an effect on the ratings.
Please, everyone. I feel badly that my liking this couple seems to be a source of contention. I have loved JMB ever since she arrived on GH and I continue to watch because of her. I believe that, as opposed to a GH particular "pairing" or "story", the overall writing and focus on the mob/violence aspects along with a "revision" of both characters and their history is responsible for the ratings drop. I tried to explain my thoughts on this in an earlier thread, specifically Perkies' Observations of 10/14/11(Friday episode) in response to alexrochet,who I thank for getting me to really sift through my reasons for what ended up on that particular thread. (For anyone interested it was Post #21.) I again apologize if my preference for D&L has opened "old wounds"; I just love who I love, as others love who they love, nothing more nothing less. I also thank you all for continuing to reiterate that your displeasure is not against me personally. I would like to believe I have been a "good steward" in my offerings here at DC as it has been a joy for me to get my thoughts "out there".
Best to all...
@Swan-I hope my words did not offend, as that was not my intent. I know Lulu and Dante are one of your favorites as well as JMB. I try to stay neutral in regards to this couple, as much as possible. Each couple on the show needs better writing without the chauvenism, or damsel in ditress included.
Jasam-No offense taken. Believe it or not, I've learned to look at a lot of the pairings with a "neutral" eye toward the overall "health" of the show. I have gained a new appreciation for your favorite couple as well as for where the diehard Liason or Lucky/Liz fans are coming from. And I think these "battles" will continue for as long as the writing is as decrepit as it is. Sending you a and thank you...
Alex - first let me say again that i am horrified at what they've done to the Spencer clan and most of all to the character of lulu. Luke is iconic so his slide has bothered me from that angle, but I hate TG's whole "Ill work when I feel like it and in the stories I want and with the people I want" approach to GH so that bothers me less. I feel like he played such a big role in getting rid of gv and replacing him with JJ and thats when these stories all changed. JJ - his approach to this character is too sensitive and teary for my tastes. I thought gv brought a vulnerability to the role WITHOUT losing the core strength. Could he do the crying, lashing out stuff the way JJ has - no I think jj summons those emotions better than maybe anyone in the biz, its really the stuff in between those scenes that I dont care for. And now with JJ back they want to turn lucky in to a mini luke - HATE that, esp. given who luke is now. Luke use to be a guy who had his demons but overcame them for love and when bravery demanded him to. Now hes just an asshat that takes advantage of the kids he sees and supports when he feels the whim. BLEECH!
Lulu - well I just love JMB and i think she has a bright future - but how they have portrayed and betrayed the character of lulu, esp in this pairing has been horrible. That said, SWAN you have the right to like who you like, and Ill defend that right with the last breath. I just get where alex is coming from when you like a character and it resonates with you because of certain character traits and then suddenly stupid frons et. al come along and not only erase all the qualities you love about your gal, but they replace them with the exact opposite qualities. Where lulu was strong and brave, shes now a doormat. They do this seemingly to ALL the female characters but lulu has gotten a double dose of that since the pairing with dante. I think she has chem with DZ because I think she has chem with nearly everyone. Heres my dilemma - lets say they put her back with johnny. The people that prefer J&L might be happy for a time, but its clear that they want to write the female characters poorly, so whos to say they wouldnt still write her cleaning out fridges and making excuses. I guess I think the problem is bigger than Lante, the problem is how GW and BG before him and frons want to portray certain characters. And I say that as someone who thinks that if they put Sam with lucky, they would writer her crying and begging the same way they are writing for liz now, and if they put her with johnny, my guess is they might still have her tripping in her high heels and sitting on his couch and if they put her with dante, she would probably be doing his laundry and cleaning his fridge because thats all these writers are capable of. How do we change THAT? (can you tell Im frustrated)
And alex to be clear, I dont think only liason and jasam can affect ratings. I have never agreed with the concept of boycotting over a couple, but thats just me. I think its basically bad for the show, but what I actually would boycott over is the chauvinism in the writing in a medium that largely caters to WOMEN. Now THAT I would like to see with all the nancy fans, the becky fans, the julie fans, the kimberly fans, the kirsten fans and the kelly fans etc. coming together. If there was a way to pick two days - one where we all tune in and maybe we do it in a way where we specifically watch on line so they can count it and then have a day where we ALL tune out so they could see what the numbers could be in either direction - THAT might be worthwhile. My concern is that basically many of the becky fans pose the argument that if she were written with jason front and center the ratings would sky rocket. I dont buy that because the WRITING wouldnt change, but I know whenever theres a week where jasam is arguably getting decent airtime and the ratings are low, the liason fans with that mentality (not all just some) dont ask what else was on that week, they just point their fingers. I absolutely think the heavy lante stuff effected the ratings, but the writing overall was lousy and knowing the spoilers for sam and franco honestly made watching the happy honeymoon beyond difficult.
Swan--You like who you like. You have a right to express yourself. It's that simple.
I had no idea that fan bases boycotted during certain story lines (call me uninformed!). I just feel that it is counter productive. GH is dying and we will probably lose it some time next year. Why would anyone jeopardize trying to save it by NOT watching? I just don't get it.
Swan - Don't ever apologize for being a fan of ANY couple or particular character. We all have different tastes and experiences in life that can make a particular character resonate with each one of us. I am and always will be a HUGE Liason fan. I loved Liz's recent dream sequence when Jason was in hospital! Their chemistry just reinforced why I am still such a fan.
ahanshew-Thank you. I'm still getting used to the intensity level that being a fan can bring. As with all of you Liason, Jasam, Liz/Lucky and JoLu fans, I've gained a new appreciation for how poor writing for any couple, as well as the entire show, can cause us to go nuts. I mentioned on another thread I plan to "go down with the GH ship" as my way of defying TPTB that would try and get me to "abandon" said ship. Never let it be said I'm a "fair weather" type to get off the band wagon...
I so totally agree with all of you!! The writing is causing most of this discord and anger. I loved Dante and LuLu, but Dante's re-written back story was ridiculous, and sacrificing LuLu on the altar of Dante turned me off them. I am a JaSam fan, but I stopped watching the very next day after they had Sam sleep with Rick and Liz sleep with Jason. I felt none of those people would have acted in that manner without the writers' intervention. Just as I thought the way Alexis interfered with Sam and Jason while battling cancer was beyond insane!
Then we have the writers cause Liz to cheat with Nic and tell him some ridiculous crap about how the sex with him was the fire that had been missing all along! So it isn't just women who get sacrificed on the altar.... it is whoever is not the current Frons/Phelps/Guza favorite. Nic, Jax, Rick, Mac - all of these men have been torn down and eviscerated as well.
Tracy and Maxie are comedic relief. Sam is a door mat who was a serial husband con artist, Liz is a serial cheater and liar, LuLu is a shreiking shrew who is now an alcoholic, Olivia is sacrificed on the altar of Sonny, even to the point of letting her son's shooter go unpunished...
God, the list is endless!!
I just don't get how anyone can blame any particular character or pairing? The writers have ruined this show beyond all recognition.
And now for the latest on Daytime Dish - which by the way - looks a lot like how Raven posts her stuff, but I haven't checked to see where this originated from:
Port Charles...Get ready to rumble!!!
Lots of rumor/spumors/spoilers out there as to the future of our favorite fictional daytime town, and here's a few more...
JaSam: Everything you've been reading/hearing about Franco/Sam is a go, but the fallout is going to be huge.
**Sam will suffer from PTSD from her experience at Franco's hands, and Jason will reach out to an unlikely choice for advice and help. And his choice will also be very helpful to Sam, although she's not going to be too grateful about it at first because she's in denial. She will come around though.
**Jason's personality change will become more apparent, especially to Sam, and she'll begin to wonder if this New Jason is a danger to her and to her bundle of joy.
**The Morgan family is to receive their addition sometime their spring/summer, and the early rumor is that the new parents are going to have some issues with Baby Morgan - meaning, it's a possibility that this baby is going to maybe be developmentally disabled. Jason wonders how his profession will come into play, and Sam will have to deal with finally having the child she's so longed for, but not.
(Expect A LOT of angst for this couple in the upcoming months!!!)
Elizabeth: Obviously, there's been a lot of Liz-Bashing going on on our screens (and off), but there's a reason for that. GW likes the character of Elizabeth and wants to make her stronger, feistier. And Elizabeth is going to need it.
**Elizabeth will hang on to her resolve to finally say good-bye to Lucky Spencer once and for all, and TPTB are testing her with Matt and the new therapist headed to PC (Ewan), but who will she eventually end up with? Well, it'll take a while, but Liz may very well learn that NEITHER man is the one she should be with.
**Liz will NOT ping/pong between Matt and Ewan. Matt's not-so-subtle crush will grow into the real thing, while Liz is firmly on the "Friend" side. And Matt's darker side will come out when he realizes Ewan has taken interest in his interest.
**Yes, Elizabeth is the person Jason will reach out to to help Sam deal with her attempted rape. As stated above, Sam will be pretty nasty about it, but she'll come around, and Liz will help her.
Lisa's Murder: Yep...Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is dead! And there are a slew of suspects. But who wielded the killing blow?
**Patrick, Robin, Elizabeth, Maxie, Spin, Anthony Z., Steve, Olivia and Matt are all involved in this s/l, and here's the twist: One of the above will be charged and tried, one will actually have done it, and several will know the truth but remain quiet. And this is where Anthony Z's "payback" to Maxie comes into play.
**Expect JaSam to get involved, peripherally, in this s/l, because the people they know and love are involved. But it's won't be "Jason Saves The Day". But they might find themselves on the witness stand, albeit very, very reluctantly, and on opposite sides of the courtroom - meaning, one testifies for the defense while the other for the prosecution.
GH's new Doctors: They're a welcome addition to GH and to PC...but for how long?
**It's already been dropped that the new Peds Doc has a history with Steven, and right now, it's a toss up as to whether Steven will wind up with Olivia or Maggie, but we'll see.
**Maggie knows all of Steven's deepest, darkest secrets, and how far will Steven go to make sure they're not revealed?
**Olivia's claws are going to come out. Maggie will be a threat, but Olivia will fight to the bitter end to hang onto a man she realizes she loves very deeply. And will Olivia discover the secret that Steven and Maggie are trying desperately to keep hidden?
**Ewan will become involved with many of the FEMALE residents of PC: Lulu, Elizabeth, and Sam. He'll counsel Lulu, will counsel Sam (because of the Franco situation), and will become interested in Elizabeth. But him knowing the worst of all our favorite ladies' may not be such a good thing. Plus, there's a rumor that his interest in Elizabeth isn't as altruistic as it may seem. It could be that, while Ewan is new to Elizabeth, Elizabeth isn't new to Ewan.
**And how is this new doc connected to Steven and possibly Maggie?
**TPTB have seemed to dictate that in order for our favorite techno-geek to stay around, he needs a backstory...and it's acomin'.
**Spin's going to find himself connected to some major players in PC...and Maxie is NOT going to be too happy about it.
**Spin will also lay the down with his Maximista. He's had enough of being her punching bag.
The Lady in White/Wyndemere:
**GW is prepping this story in two different directions, depending as to whether or not GH gets Genie Francis back. But it's going to involve almost as many players as the "Who Killed Lisa?" s/l? In fact, they're going to be slightly interweaving.
**Ethan, Maxie, Spin, Elizabeth, Matt, Ewan and possibly Steven and Maggie and Olivia will all become involved. And, of course, Helena Cassadine.
**There have been a lot of rumors about a possible Faison return, or, finally, the long-awaited appearance of Valentin Cassadine. It seem that one of these characters will show up, the other, no.
**While he's traipsing around Ireland, Lucky's going to fall to the dark side. He may discover this Ronan persona too strong to resist.
**Erin Chambers will be back on our screen (but not as Shiobhan. She is dead and buried), possibly as Shiobhan's look-alike sister.
**They'll get hot and heavy for a while, but Lucky will eventually realize PC is the place he needs to be. But when he returns...
**He's not going to be very happy that Elizabeth won't give him the time of day. Elizabeth stated she's done, and she meant it. And who's this shifty new doctor hanging around her? Lucky doesn't like him, it shows, but will he cry wolf too many times for anyone to believe that Dr. Ewan isn't the good guy people think he is?
**Lante will get engaged, but don't expect them to marry...yet. With Julie Marie Berman looking more and more like she'll be leaving GH, it's possible that Lante won't get the happily-ever-after they've been wanting. Rumor is, IF JMB leaves, Lulu's drinking will be the reason, and let's just say that Luke isn't the only drunk-driver PC has.
**This could also be the s/l that wipes out the entire Spencer clan (sans Ethan), paving the way for Anthony Geary to finally retire, and for Jonathan Jackson to leave the show as well. A lot of hints will be dropped in November.
**Yes, there appears there is another Scrubs baby on the way, and this s/l will also pave the way if Kimberly McCullough decides to leave GH...and we should be hearing something about it soon.
**Scrubs will get through "The Lisa Who Dun It" with flying colors, but their arrival from the stork will unexpectedly intertwine with the JaSam's baby s/l...and guess who's caught in the middle? You got it! ELIZABETH! Scrubs and JaSam are going to demand she pick sides...but Elizabeth won't bite. She'll refuse to choose between the two couples, and when possible tragedy strikes, Elizabeth may be the only one to save the day...but will she want to? Or will Scrubs and JaSam regret their actions? Rumor is, JaSam and Scrubs are going to have eat their words.
The Fate of GH:
**With "The Chew" tanking, ABC seems to be flip-flopping as to whether or not to keep GH on the air and to go ahead with plans for "The Revolution". It could be that GH will stay on our screens but simply be bumped back to a new timeslot.
**Brian Frons is in the hot seat with ABC because "The Chew" is not delivering as he said it would. Rumor is, this is make it or break it time for the ABC President, and if he isn't careful, he may find himself out of a job. Reportedly, Frons assured his boss's that the backlash over ending AMC and OLTL would dissipate, but it hasn't. Not only is "The Chew" facing backlash from soap fans, but also from reviewers who have nothing to so with soaps. Reviews have NOT been positive. In fact, they've been down right ugly. And of course, it's not helping that Mario Batalli is whining about nasty soap fans hating him and the show.
Okay...that's it for now. Bye.
Okay...so I'm not done. Forgot to mention one more thing.
The reported Jason/Sam/Liz triangle:
**There won't be a Liason reunion - at least, not in the way Liason fans hope. GW wants to re-establish the FRIENDSHIP between Jason/Liz, but she won't come between the JaSam marriage.
**Right now, it's up in the air as to whether Rick Hearst will return. But if he does, expect him to cause problems between him and Kate...meaning, Ric may know Kate's secret and cause all kinds of havoc. And if he returns to PC, there isn't going to be a LiRic reunion.
**She's coming back saucier, sexier, and much more aggressive. Ethan Lovett is in her sights, and she'll stop at nothing to get her man.
**She'll also cause a lot of worry for her mother and older sister. Sam, through Kristina, will see her past come back to haunt her.
**They are thinking of SORASing her and Morgan to older teens.
**There's a possibility that GH will also be SORASing Cam and Aiden.
**Right now, GW is up in the air as to whether everyone favorite little blonde-haired, blue-eyed little tyke is actually alive. If GW decides to go that direction, we'll start hearing about it by year's end...and in a very unexpected way and by a very unexpected source
Thanks Supramom-Lots to digest and mull over...
Am I the only one that thinks theres an awful lot of darkness in that storyline. And an autistic or developmentally challenged child was a thought I had for elizabeth or carly when they had their third child, but to make the ONLY baby jasam has turn out ill....UGH. Ive long liked the idea of liz and sam being friends.
@Supramom-Thanks for the spoiler tidbits. The upcomming storylines are not promising or exciting. I don't even know where to begin on my comments. I will just wait for GH to got to another network or Prospect Park.
@EET-I agree. I did not want to make a comment in regards to the Jasam baby because I did not want to be insensitive to the mentally disabled, but after all Sam has been through, this is her outcome!!! All the while, Jason is having another "friendship" with Elizabeth, when Sam is also dealing with a possible rape as well. Please! I just know Sam better have a man she develops a "friendship" with too, to balance the equation.
All this hope for Kristina and Ethan, when we don't even know if the recast will be any good, or have any chemistry with Nathan Parsons.
Where is the love, happiness, and lighter storylines? This to me is not a definition of a soap.
Anyone in their right mind knew the Chew would tank and if these idiots could not smell the horseshit that was right under them, then they deserve whatever fate happens.
Supramom--Thanks for all the hard work you put into these spoilers. I may not like all of them, but at least they make sense.
You are welcome guys! But notice how these newest ones contradict what I posted earlier? I just have no idea what to believe any more...
And from what I understand, Garin Wolfe has things locked down pretty tightly, so I wonder how much of those outlines are pure speculation. I do think that both Sam and Robin end up pregnant. I have read that in so many forms and places now. One scoop I read said it was from a person who had seen a wardrobe delivery and that it was maternity clothes. The box was marked Kelly and Kim.
I think that over at GHH (but I can't remember for sure where I read it) that there are 2 pregnancies but only 1 baby. So, again.... what do we really beleive?
*Lisa's twisted, evil intentions for Robin and Patrick are revealed, as she intends to inject Patrick with Robin's HIV-infected blood! Robin fights back, though, like the Scorpio she is, and after a struggle ... suddenly Robin wakes up alone and covered in blood. ...So where's Lisa?? Or better yet: which of Lisa's enemies could have gotten rid of her?
*Lisa is killed on the boat..or IS she?
*When Robin wakes up, she can't remember the pieces to the puzzle.
*In Hawaii, Carly and Shawn continue to grow closer as they co-opt Jason and Sam's honeymoon. And a few further close moments, will they finally stop fighting it and just kiss already? Meanwhile, back in Port Charles, Michael learns about his mother's little romantic getaway, and he ends up taking his frustration out on Abby.
*Olivia continues to have dizzy spells.
*As for Sam and Jason, they're talking about what a baby might mean for their lives. But the baby talk takes a back seat when Jason gets word about Franco...
*After being attacked by Lisa on the boat, Elizabeth ends up getting revived by a mysterious stranger. Who is this guy? And how does he tie in to Ethan's snooping around Wyndemere?
*Liz realizes Lucky isn't going to be there for her this time...
*A mystery man stalks Wyndemere.
*All this, plus Kate and Sonny kiss, and Lulu's fears about marrying Dante could lead her to break up with him.
Thanks Jasam-If Olivia is having dizzy spells, could it be a Little Baby Webber?
Not to be mean but I hope not. Have a great weekend...
Thanks Supramom2000 and JasamForever for the spoilers
I actually find myself looking forward to some of those story lines. Although I am not getting my hopes up due to the abysmal writing as of late.
While I still wish for my favorite couple, Liason, to be reunited, I am all for Jason and Liz to re-establish their past friendship. These characters have only existed to each other when their was ridiculous drama surrounding them. They have been friends for years and it is sad to think that this friendship had been ignored for so long.
I also like the idea of Liz and Sam being friends. I am not much of a Sam fan, but I do like the idea of a friendship should the writers actually do it. On the opposite end of that spectrum I am really hoping Liz does stay away from Lucky. I don't ever want to see this couple back together. Let them work back towards a stable friendship and keep it that way.
Holy crap, the idea that Liz will actually be portrayed in positive light instead of her character constantly being barraged by crap makes my heart flutter. If only this would happen.
I like the idea of this nudoc and his (what seems to be) obsession with Liz. I think this storyline could be really intriguing, as long as they don't take it in a super dark direction.
Love hearing that NLG will be working more! And I want Ric back! I am really wishing that there were whispers of Megan Ward coming back as Kate.
I actually think that the writers making the jasam baby developmentally challenged could create a great story line. After all, there are many real life couples who have only had one child and that child was developmentally challenged. If it happens to Jason and Sam, it shouldn't minimize Sam's love for the baby she has wanted for so long. I am not saying any of the jasam fans are wrong for not liking the storyline, that is your opinion. I am saying it is something that happens in real life, something viewers might be able to identify with (well without the mob aspect of the storyline).
Also...I want Jake to be alive. That poor child never should have been killed off in the first place. If he is alive it will certainly be interesting to see how they explain away him being hit by a car and the surgery that took place after.
I am not a Sam fan (as I've stated before) but even I can't stand to see another female treated like absolute crap to further a storyline that will probably end up tanking anyways. That seems to be what happens to females in PC.
It would be lovely if Frons was ousted from the top of the ABC daytime hierarchy. He needs to be knocked down a few pegs. I am torn because he is absolutely horrible at his job, but I don't want to wish for anyone to be fired either.
On a separate note, am I the only one that thinks that Spin could turn out to be a trevor/kate baby, making him mollys uncle and rics half brother?
And yea, babies are born developmentally challenged all the time and had they done that with a second baby or for one of the parents who have multiple kids I think it would have been a great idea, BUT not only is this their only kid, it comes on the heels of either resurrecting jasons other son OR on the heels of that childs death. If its the former, I guess it raises that question of agenda again, and if its the latter, how much misery with children can one show write.
there are far too many developmental disabilities for me to speculate on how GW would handle such an important story but that is my only hangup I would be far more interested if Claire Labine were HW. That said, I think it would be incredible to watch a show's leads deal with such a powerful and important issue. Sam would be I think classified as "high risk" and so the pregnancy would be monitored carefully and she would probably know the baby's diagnosis in advance and have to decide whether to continue the pregnancy, which she would and then learn about caring for the child in advance. If done with care, the story could reach and touch many, many women and men who have only one child after years of trying only to find they have to deal with a developmental disability, they are far too common.
Just a cut and paste job from The Dadytime Dish, but lots to read.
Port Charles…Get Ready to Rumble!! – Part II (You didn’t think I was done, did you?)
Sonny/Kate: If you are tired of the last 20 years of “The Sonny Show”, fear not! It’s not as if PC’s favorite mob boss is moving to the backburner, but he won’t be as front and center anymore, either. And we may see a lighter side of Sonny - well, as light as a mob boss can be, anyway.
**Skate will move slowly but surely towards couple-dom again, but it’s going to be a bumpy ride. One reason: Kristina. Her return – and new attitude – will give Sonny a few gray hairs, while Kate is going to get a crash course on being a stepmommy.
**Kate is hiding a BIG, BIG secret from her new/old love, but is it the fact that Sonny has, yet again, another child out there somewhere? Not necessarily. But Kate’s secret WILL have huge ramifications for Sonny, and for Skate.
**There’s a reason why Detective Delores and Detective Dante are getting so much screen time. Yep, there's going to be a triangle! TPTB are very impressed with Rebekah Montoya (Delores Padilla) and want to keep her on. Whether or not Julie Marie Berman leaves the show, expect a Lante/Delores triangle.
**Sonny, who may be the first one to get a clue about his grown son and his partner, will be humorously horrified by the pairing (D&D), Olivia will support it, and Kate, too, will have an opinion. And her choice will be Lulu…for now.
**Lulu’s road down Alcoholism Lane won’t be a pretty one. And it won’t only affect her relationship with Dante. Expect her hitting the bottle to have an affect almost everyone in PC.
**Right now, there are no plans to bring Sarah back to town, but Jeff Webber, Elizabeth and Steven’s long absentee father, is another story. Reportedly, GH has contacted Jeff Webber’s original portrayer, Richard Dean Anderson, about making a brief appearance sometime during Feb. Sweeps, but he doesn’t seem too interested. That’s not to say viewers won’t see him, however. As for Mrs. Jeff Webber, she’s not expected to return, so we’ll probably never see her. But maybe, at least, we’ll get to learn her name! (As of yet, her name has never been mentioned. As you all know, Steven’s mother is Heather Webber).
**IF Jeff Webber comes back to town, it’s rumored that Rachael Ames will come out of retirement briefly to interact with her stepson. And speaking of Audrey Hardy, if GH does go off the air, GH would like to bring her back for that final episode.
**The Junior Mob Prince has been sort of MIA lately, but he’ll be back. Rumor is, he and Johnny, of all people, may just form an unlikely friendship over their “daddy issues”. And just as they embark on a Bromance (think Sason) a woman – of course – comes into the mix…by the name of Abby? Or is it Gina?
**And where does that leave Mabby? Rumor is, Abby will leave PC before any damage is done to Johnny/Michael.
**There are plans to move Ethan to the head of the Spencer family, and with all the Spencer’s leaving town, really, what choice do they have? However, with his family taking off, Ethan may be in the perfect position to be in Kristina’s sights…and bed.
**But wait! Who’s that new chicky hanging around? Why, that would be Gina! There are reports that we’re going to have an interesting five-some – Johnny/Michael/Ethan/Gina/Kristina.
**It’s been reported that Laura Wright may be leaving the role that won her an Emmy earlier this year, and those rumors are getting stronger. It seems that TPTB wonder if there are anymore roads Carly can travel. Frons, of course, is infuriated with the thought – keep in mind, Frons handpicked Laura Wright to take over the role from Jennifer Brandsford – and he’s let his anger be known. But this is one area where Frons may be overruled.
**And really, do they need two Carly’s? (See Below)
**As stated earlier, a new Kristina is coming…and for those viewers who watched in the mid-90’s when a certain blonde troublemaker came to PC creating all kinds of havoc, well, this time she has brown hair, but the attitude and antics will be almost identical.
**John J. York, who is still, technically, on contract, may be bumped to recurring. He’s played the role since 1991. And what about a Mac/Alexis romance? Well, that may be out, along with “Who’s Sam’s Daddy?” s/l.
**NLG is pushing ABC’s buttons over her opinionated outspokenness, and her latest “victim” – Vera Wang – may be the final straw. Regardless of who said what to whom, NLG may learn that there are some that names that you don’t attack. Vera Wang is a very well-liked, very well-respected – not to mention a very powerful – woman in entertainment, even though she’s not an actor/producer/etc. And there are some power-players who don’t like when the Queen of Designers are attacked. In other words, NLG may discover what happens when you storm the Queen’s castle. All kidding aside, NLG latest twitter campaign isn’t going over so well with ABC Execs. Reportedly, they’ve been wanting to get rid of NLG for a while, and now may finally have an “excuse” to do it. They’re fed up with her attitude, and want her out.
**Prospect Park is just waiting for GH’s cancellation to be announced. They’re anxious to get the daytime soap on their line-up, and reportedly, all that’s needed is a signature on the dotted line. It appears that PP has already made an offer for GH, and although ABC hasn’t technically accepted, it’s just a matter of when. If that happens – or, rather, when – viewers can expect an entirely different show. PP also seems to also have contracts/offers all ready for GH actors to sign. But who they’ll offer contracts to – and who they won’t – might be a little shocking.
**GW, you might have guessed, doesn’t want any character/storyline front and center. For him, it’s all about creating a balance. In other words, a viewer may not like one certain s/l playing, but maybe they’ll tune in because they like another. Also, he wants more character interactions, not just interactions with characters in certain s/l’s. For example, Elizabeth (who will be getting A LOT of screentime over the next several months) will be in her own s/l with the two docs (Matt & Ewan) but also in the Lady In White s/l, and, peripherally, the JaSam/Scrubs s/l. Here’s another: Sonny will be involved with Kate in their own s/l, but he’ll also be in the Lante s/l. See how that works? GW wants the actors to all work together in a more ensemble setting than like before, where it was so individualistic. That's also the reason why Jason isn't in PC during the latest crisis to hit PC. GW doesn't want anymore s/l where "Jason Saves the Day" all the time.
**With Laura Wright possibly leaving, that would leave one spot open on GH’s leading lady list (Kelly Monaco has the other spot). And who will their choice be? You got it! Elizabeth Webber may very well become GH’s second leading lady. And this is something GW is pushing for hard. The main reason being: Elizabeth is a Hardy/Webber. In GW’s opinion, the Hardy/Webber family should be more front and center since they are the founding family of GH/PC. Since her introduction, Elizabeth has only been considered a supporting character, but GW wants to change that. And he may get his wish. And this is the reason for all the Liz-bashing that’s occurring (at least on the show). GW wants to build the character up again so she’s ready for that leading lady spot. It could also be the reason why viewers may see a Sam/Liz friendship unexpectedly develop – not that they’re enemies (not anymore, at least), but GW feels the show would be stronger if GH’s two leading ladies were friendly.
**Triangles: It’s no secret that GW LOVES triangles, and we’re going to see a lot of them. Here are the reported threesomes coming our way: Dante/Delores/Lulu...Matt/Maxie/Spin...Johnny/Michael/Abby...Matt/Elizabeth/Ewan...Jason/Elizabeth/Sam (but not in the traditional love-triangle way)... Kate/Sonny/Olivia...Olivia/Maggie/Steven... Okay, I’ll stop. You get the point. But some triangles will be obvious, others, not so much. Some will be downright shocking. Case in point: A third party may come between Jason and Sam, but it WON’T be Elizabeth. I’m not saying that JaSam won’t get their happy ending, but angst is part of the game, folks.
**February sweeps is when Lisa's killer will be revealed.
Tealita-Looks like you've been busy putting all this together. Thanks for the "goodies" as always with a "grain of salt"...
Swan--It took me ten seconds flat. That's what the cut and paste function is for. Credit goes to the IL at Daytime Dish.
They just posted in the Insider's Lounge at Daytime Dish that Nancy Lee Grahn is officially out. That she will tape until the end of the year. Anyone who follows her on Twitter heard anything?