Good evening all. Thought I'd tap in after being off for a couple of days-computer difficulties that had to be taken care of. (Technology is a wonderful thing but when it decides to be obnoxious it's very annoying.)
JAQ-Oppinions,likes and dislikes are yours and yours alone. No one can take them away from you. That's why I'm enjoying this website. Having said that, I've enjoyed getting to know the Spencer's despite their faults and disfuction. I wasn't watching during thr "Luke & Laura" heydays, (was busy dancing in a ballet company) so I don't have much to compare the current family situation to. As I've said before I like Lulu with Dante. Where it ends up is anybodys guess and with Mr. Wolf being the new head writer, I prefer not to speculate. (At least not until after July 25th.)
With regard to Nancy Lee Grahn, I'd love to see her crack open the potential story egg that is Sam's paternity. It would be interesting to see if Helena had any thing to do with the situation-all I know of this part of her story is that she witnessed Helena killing her mother. (Hope I got that right.) I'd also enjoy the possibility of Rick Hearst coming back as Ric Lansing-interesting to see if they could mine story with Molly as she moves up the chronological age ladder. Not sure if they should fast-forward her though-I like Haley Pullos. If they could somehow clean up the mob connection, i.e. "legit" lawyer, not crime connected as with Trevor, Sonny etc., it would offer a counterpoint to whatever is left if Wolf pushes that material into the background.
There's been a lot of back and forth about bringing Jake back (or not) and I wonder if anyone recalls Nikolas saying Helena had "business dealings" with the Balkan, and that he preferred not to know anymore about them than was necessary. Who he had the conversation with escapes me. I also remember as poorly as the story was handled I recall that his syndicate dealt in trafficking women and children. It may be a stretch but is it too far fetched to think Helena could have had a hand in Jake being "switched" with another child to get to Liz and Lucky? Just a thought and only that....Have a good night all.
It is Sam, I forgot, it was Tommy when Marcy and Michael had him temporarily.
The Two Todds has been confusing so far, what do you think?
I think that Viki and Clint are the end game,as for Cutter, I read a spoiler that the deed Cutter had is a fake, looks like Clint pulled a fast one.
As for GH,
Hey it's a good way to catch up on sleep,lol.
You're right JAQ, JJ has said that he doesn't want Lucky to be with Liz, anymore, that's where all the rumors about him leaving this fall got started, like you guys said with his real-life son, joining the cast, I don't see that happening.
I can't wait for Monica to come back, I wonder how are they going to explain her absence.
I love MB and Sonny, but the problem is that Guza centered the show around him for years, it caused some backlash.
Don't know where Claire is, but MB did say that Sonny will have someone after Brenda leaves, and some people aren't going to like it.
We'll see what happens!!!
Someone said on the main board I think its going to be explained that shes been in rehab again. That does make sense and Im sure thats going to be part of her blow up. remember jason wanted to tell monica about jake so she would have something to keep her motivated to stay sober and not drown in booze and her losses. If monica comes home after saying losing aj and alan and emily drove me to the bottle and finds out that she had family to love but they didnt tell her, I imagine she will be even madder than if she had been sober all along.
GREAT post Swan..........I know alot about computer problems! NOT!! Right now I am OK, but I have an IT man calling tonight from Microsoft and who knows after that what will be.....
Like I have said before, honestly I don't care if people don't like who I like or my reasons. If I am in the minority, then I set myself apart from others. Which I like! I just ask people be respectful toward one another's favorites. (Although I have to admit, I have been known to not say very nice things about Brenda)
You say the Spencer's are dysfunctual. Who isn't?? The Weber family?? Where is Liz's parents?
The Scorpio family?? (Where is Felicia & Frisco)
Do I need to go on??
Would LOVE to see Ric Lansing back. He is one of the best daytime actors there are. He worked well with MB. Their scenes were magical.
Speaking of Trevor....I LOVED his character/actor.
He is right up their with BW.
NLG is pure joy to watch. Whatever sl Wolf has in store, I am sure Alexis can carry it off like only Alexis can. BTW-She knows who Sam's father is.
It just has never really been discussed. WHY?? Why doesn't Sam ask her who her bio dad is?
Great question about Helena and the Balkin having connection to one another..Maybe someone else who reads this can answer that one.
I tend to FF thru alot of soaps. So I miss alot.
Have a good week Swan......
Keeana....2 Todd's? The jury is still out with me on how I feel about the storyline thus far. Still spinning my head how he arrived in Landview via Marty's exit!!!
I like Todd & Sam's relationship. Cute!!
I find it easy to believe that Clint didn't hand him the real deed to the house. Who does that?? At least go home and pack your undies before you give your house & belongings away!!!!
GH: How will they explain Monica's absense?? The SPA!!!!!!! Hopefully with a little creativity (which we haven't seen for awhile) Wolf and his team will come up with something. Although Grandfather has been mentioning alot lately that Monica is at the spa. I don't care. I just want her back!!
Please don't tell me Sonny & Carly hook up again!!!!
Other than that, with Brenda gone, who could be that bad??
I was thinking that he would get involved with Kate again. NuKate.
He is going back to Bensonhurst.
Keep me posted girlfriend!!! I appreciate it.
Good theory. I can see that as an explanation.
Oh JAQ, everytime I think I figured the two Todds storyline, my starts spinning, I get dizzy, and it isn't pretty.
I just read that Erin Torpey is coming back, but not as Jess,as a different character apparently this has been under wraps, any guesses?
Got to wait and watch OLTL on Soapnet today, because they've reached a verdict in former Gov, Blagojevich's case and it and maybe GH will be preempted here in Chicago.
EET, I like your theory about Monica, maybe having to go back to rehab, because she had a relapse, we'll see how they write this.
I was thinking the same thing that Kate maybe Sonny's new old love, Kate, maybe the actress playing her will make some people upset.
Speaking of Sonny, I read that he and Brenda get caught up in the CarJax custody mess, and that's when problems arise.
Keanna...keep the spoilers coming! I am so wrapped up with this trial on TV I barely have time to pee!!!!! Let alone look for spoilers for soaps I am barely watching!! So keep the info coming!!
Curious what the verdict is with Blago. Maybe when commercials comes I can change the station and find out?? lol
Just checked the web. Obviously nothing has been leaked yet...they may interrupt abc here too.
I got ya covered, JAQ, don't worry!!!!
Luke just broke the news about Erin coming, I wonder what character she'll be playing, I think she's for Christian.
As for the Blago verdict, they might interrupt ABC in your area, since you guys are so close, let me if they do!!
One of the things that I liked about reading Becky's interviews is how gracious she was when discussing ALL of her pairings with JJ, JY, (the guy that played Zander), GV, SBu, RiH and TC. It irritates me as a soap fan to hear that JJ did NOT want LnL2 when Becky has had to work with all 3 versions of Lucky Spencer! On the other hand, I'm doing a "happy dance" if no more LnL2 is indeed a reality which also ticks me off that they wrote another WTD s/l for Liz.
As a HUGE GV fan I have to disagree with that a little bit. It was clear in the way she was promoting Liason even after it was clear Guza was taking her in the Lucky direction again, that she really did NOT want to do LL2 again and hey, fair enough, how many times can that stay fresh as an actress doing the same romance over and over AND honestly (and this was my problem with lusam) is that it was clear that for whatever reason gv was NEVER going to get a full on front burner story, so being paired with lucky would have taken her from being on 4-5 days a week to 2-3 days a week. But if its okay for HER not to want to do ll2 again, even though she was gracious in the way she expressed that, then its also okay for JJ to feel that way. Its not that jj doesnt want to work with becky and he makes it clear in every interview he does how much he values her as a friend and as an actress, he just doesnt want to play the same old scenes and he thinks ll2 is too soon after the niz reveal.
UNBELIEVABLE! Guilty on all but 2 charges!!
WOW. I honestly didn't see that coming!!
Grant it, Blago is obnoxious to listen to, however he did nothing wrong that others don't do. That doesn't make it right, but still.......
Someone doesn't like him!!!!!
EET...I don't blame RH at all for wanting a pairing that we (Liason) fans have been pushing for since 1999. GV had a popular pairing in LuSam and that all went to crap due to TPTB wanting to go back to old pairings when there was nothing wrong in my eyes with Liason and LuSam. RH has been on the show for 14 years and as we saw back in January is very popular with soap fans. If JJ didn't want to do LnL2 after being gone for over a decade then RH should have been given allowed the same deal since she made all three LnL2 pairings work for almost a decade....JMO
Edited: Oh, yes, I've read before that JJ and RH get along very well and that's great news in my book for both actors. I just wished TPTB had moved on from LnL2 when GV was in the role and give him and RH new pairings and I am NOT talking about that nasty Niz!
I thought Rebecca/Lucky was hot which would have led to Rebecca/Lucky/Nik only to find out that Rebecca was Emily!
Liason My point was that if its not wrong for one actor to prefer not to do a certain pairing then its okay for all the actors to have their preferences as long as they dont make it a deal breaker to the HW.
That said Im not sure I buy this well she felt that way because of her fans and the new pairings were just fine line of thinking and I say that as someone that loved Lusam HOWEVER neither fanbase and neither woman should have wanted the characters paired with Lucky unless the writers were going to be willing to write for gvs version. I think kelly loved working with greg but it was clear she was frustrated that she wasnt on much. And while I am sure that rebecca understood that a big part of her fan base wanted Liason, I think most of her true ff fans would have accepted her with ric or lucky assuming they actually had a front burner story. Now some people are trashing jj for having his preference and some vocal liz fans are taking that as a personal offense against becky. If it is then greg fans should be offended at becky for doing likewise. In the end its all about consistency. One thing cant be okay for the goose and another for the gander.
JAQ, I know, I know, I saw it, couldn't avoid it!!
Blago will appeal, and we're going to go through this all over again, yeah!!!
Did you read about TSJ, I think TPTB dropped the ball on this one.
Ladies we'll see what happens, maybe Liz will get a new love interest.
If the rumors are true that MB does not want another round of CarSon, TSJ wanted to be paired with Evangeline because he wanted a break from TnB and RH not wanting another round of LnL2 after having been paired with ALL three Lucky's over the last 14 years does not bother me in the least. JJ was gone for OVER a decade and he's telling TPTB that he does not want to do LnL2? Okay. Fine. My point is RH should have been able to get a new pairing since she has successfully been paired with all three Lucky's. I'm not trashing JJ at all. I just don't think he should be able to show up after a decade and start requesting no LnL2 when it is his ONLY pairing that the fans remember from years ago where RH has had other popular parings (Liason, LnL2 and LiRic). I am not about to mention that Niz business...
We can agree to disasgree but TPTB should treat all of the actors requests the same.
Yep, I hate that TSJ is out since he came in and made "Todd" his own for over eight years. IF ATWT was still on the air there is no way that RH would come back to OLTL...JMO
I read somewhere (Raven maybe, but not positive) that Liz and Johnny were going to get chem-tested. How hot would those two be? It has hypocrisy written all over it and I love it! LMAO...
Okay guys - a BUNCH of new stuff, but all from Daytime Dish - so.... You know the rule: GRAIN OF SALT!!
1. If you can hold on for about six more weeks
You won't even recognize the show.....writing wise.
Its about to get a lot, lot, LOT better.
Oldies will understand this, kids no so much.
But think The Doctors meets Edge of Night.
2. Javier kills Lupe because she betrayed him.
3. Sam tells Spinelli that there is no marriage, while Jason asks Maxie to help him set up for the best proposal ever.
4. Morgan and Molly run away with Josslyn
5. Jax is arrested for assault and drugs.
6. - expect cast changes come Sept and major changes
- returns departures amass
- new/old faces
- bye bye to 2 major players
- OLTL is coming to GH in more ways than one
- budget still being slashed slashed slashed
7. JFP is out. Gary Tomlin in as EP at OLTL. Frank Valentini in as EP at GH.
8. AJ Quartermaine is not coming back.
Alan Quartermaine is "coming back".
Kate Howard hmmm maybe not.
Carly may be getting a new face.
Other Quartermaines maybe.
A Nikolas return yes and maybe longer.
The above were all directly copied from DD.
Have at it!!!
Thanks Supramom, you're the best!!!
But I am with you a lot of stuff on DD, you can't take seriously,plus some of those rumors have already been mentioned.
Just the fact that it's going to be more hospital-centered, I am a happy camper.
Don't really care for #2, just want that part over it.
#3 Best proposal ever, who's paraphrasing that.
#4, I can see that happening.
I don't believe that #5 one about Jax, unless he was trying to set up someone else.
#6 We've heard and read about that for a while.
#7, Considering that OLTL has six months left, I don't believe that Gary would agree to be EP for six months, but the latter I believe about Frank, that rumor has been going on for a while.
#8, Some I believe, some I don't.I wish and would love for AJ to come back, now is the time, but not Billy Warlock as much as I do like him, if not Sean Keanan, then maybe TSJ of OLTL. I hope Alan comes back alive and well, and more Qs, love it.
I still don't believe the Carly stuff, I think Kate is coming back, but I would love for Nikolas to come back for good,
P.S., did you guys read what Garin said, that he was going to give women their "balls" back, that was too funny, lol. But I know he will!!!!
Again, thanks Supramom!!!
GH Happenings just put a lot of these up on their site today. That means they are pretty reliable. The proposal, Jax getting drugged (by Sonny), Lupe dying. Nothing about Molly and Morgan running away. But it does say that Jax pays off the mediator and Sonny finds out - thus leading to the drugging.
Keanna--I would love to see TJS as AJ. I think he would bring alot to the role. But I don't think all the AJ anvils mean a revisit for the character, except to allow Sonny, Carly, and Jason to purge some guilt and give us a few bonus Q moments, sans extra salary. There's a twitter spumor out there about an, "Alan Dream Montage." I don't know what all it involves. No disprespect to LW, but I have my eyes, fingers, and toes that TB is coming back in some capacity. I would dig it if she was coming back as Carly, no offense to anyone. There's a wealth of flashback material to mine, and I'm with all those who think that Jackie Z. is lovely inside and out. I've heard rumors as to which two male leads will be out, but I'll do my crying or cheering when they make an official announcement.
Here's Ravenbeauty's latest news for GH and OLTL:
Here's the link:
Kim will be back with a vengeance, we will finally know Cutter's secret, Destiny's secret will be revealed as well. Looks like Erin Torpey's character is for Cristian.
Now she's saying four actors will leave,not just the two male leads we've been hearing about, but two more.
The rest are just old rumors that we've already read.
I bailed after this last WTD storyline I came back in after years of little interest when JJ Lucky came back I thought at least I'd get an old school LnL2 storyline
and got even more hackery l can't believe they did it again...three in a row not to mention the surrogate storyline .... so that's it that's all she's ever going to do on this show.
I also agree about the summer teen storylines that never quite bring in the bacon yet they do it year after year after...They won't change anything they just won't do it. This is the only regime I have experienced when something doesn't work they just do it again....LoL
Cyber,,,Even with JJ in the role, I never wanted to see another round of LnL2 unless they did a "Who is the real Lucky" s/l similar to what is going on with OLTL's Todd vs Todd. JJ's version of Lucky does not absolve all of the verbal abuse that the character did to Liz over the last decade. There was way too much damage to Liz and Lucky for me to ever want them back as a couple
I wanted Liason to have their out in the open love story with no more danger nonsense before they ever had Jake. Yes, Jake was nice for my couple, but I wanted the romance and everything else that was being written for Liason before Frons/Pratt came along and decided that Courtney and Sam were the women for Jason.
I am so tired of Liz carrying babies around! I get that RH has three children in real life, but there was no reason for Guza to treat Liz like some baby factor. You're right, 3 WTD s/l and a surrogacy s/l is all Liz was ever going to get out of Guza!
Yes, the teen s/l during the summer will never go away. I don't get it at all. The last thing that I wanted to watch on a soap as a teen was teenage story lines. I wanted to see the adults make a mess of their lives!
Liason what I am curious about is whether or not they treat actors differently based on gender bias or on other factors including things like how persuasive one actor is vs another, how good the idea/storyline/reasoning is behind the argument, how valuable one actor is vs. another based on focus groups, mail count, mainstream media attention, how long someones been with the show etc.
You say you want all actors treated the same but yet you say hey becky had in your opinion successful pairing after successful pairing and showed unwavering loyalty to the show, so its more understandable that she might not what to do a pairing/storyline vs. jj who was gone for so long and only has that one memorable pairing. If I look at that, that tells me that you actually think the actors should be treated differently but that loyalty and performance should factor into whos requests are honored more vs. other factors. I sort of see your point if we were talking about a regular old business, but when you are talking about a show where some actors are more of a draw than others or bring more cache to the table than others that cant totally be ignored. I hated the franco story because of how they chose to write it, but I cant fault tptb for the fact that they catered to a star of that caliber and one that draws so much media attention to gh in terms of scheduling and on some of who he wanted to work with (ie Steve)
I dont think JJ is worth more than becky, but then you are talking to someone that didnt think gv should get shafted the way he did and clearly in terms of pairings, becky making it known that she didnt want to get back burnered with him again vs. being in a different pairing is kind of equivalent to jj making the argument that the story between liz and lucky is played out and usually played out means back burnered.
EET...RH is constantly pushed back to LnL2 when she has successfully been paired with ALL three actors (JJ, JY and GV). Yes, Liz was paired with Ric and Jason, but that crap with Zander was JFP's doing and Niz was suppose to have been (according to rumors/spumors) Frons wanting Liz "dirtied up" to equal all of the stuff that was done to Sam with the Jakenapping and men from the park.
RH has 14 years of seniority while JJ was gone for ever a decade. If JJ did not want LnL2 then cool, but dang it, RH should have had the same considerations whether she was pushing to work with SBu, BB, RiH, JT or even a brand spanking new man for her character.
We are just goint to have to agree to disagree because you are comparing rh's desires to JJs desires and saying rh deserves more because of her longevity and Im looking at this from a gv pov. A lot of the becky fans see this as jj basically shafting rebecca and certainly if he is shafting her then she shafting gv since he is behaving in the same fashion as she did with greg. If what she did to gv was okay what jj is doing to her should be equally okay. If what she did to gv was not cool then neither is jjs. the difference between the two for you seems to be in the fact that her request was unsuccessful and his was successful. Personally I dont think tptb should be canving in to any actors requests unless it makes sense from a storyline pov, they should trust their vision for the show.
JAQ - I love the tale of two Todds and I have my favorite, lol.
I am so rooting for Ford & Tess/Jess especially after the 4th of July episode. DG & BW have chemistry in spades and it is difficult to resist.
I don't think we'll get Clint's other kids but I would love to get that surprise in January. I think Aubrey & Cutter will eventually fade away b/c their stories are winding down and there is no need for them.
I only watch L&L2 scenes (still rooting for them) though there seems to be so much speculation and dislike of them. I hope the speculation isn't true and I don't see Liz risking the lives of her children to be with a mobster. I'm also scared to see what the writers would do with Lucky if JJ decides to leave...
I liked seeing Carly happy with Jax, I will admit, but after L&L2 I fell in love with S&C. Though it was with actress Sarah Brown, she had chem with everyone.
Monica is going to be a firecracker when she steps on the scene and I am going to be front and center and on this board! Lol, Monica is going to look fabulous!
Yeah I want to see Sonny and Alexis...their one scene (when they conceived Kristina) was off the charts. NLG and MB play so well off of each other and I love the idea of a love/hate relationship where they can't fight the attraction.
I'll try to get on here again, talk to you soon!
Watching the destruction of Jax reminds me so much of what they did to Sam when they were trying to get her to quit (or thought she was leaving.) I stopped watching GH during that time - and apparently I had not even seen the total destruction they were planning for her. Now I am almost at the same point again. Jax can be arrogant and a jackass, but what he is doing now? Off the scale. Not only that, but it turns Carly into the good one, and she is so NOT the good one. It negates all those soul searching moments about the mob lifestyle and the impact on the kids.
And now we know that he is going to get arrested for drugs, etc. Even though it is a frame-up, it is still so disgusting. I am hanging on for Garin's version to show up, but I really hate the whole show right now. I am sick that they have not righted the injustice to Shawn. As a veteran, I know friendly fire incidents happen and they are horrible. But the way they wrote the story does a huge disservice to our military heroes who are fighting for their lives.
Anyway, yesterday's episode left me feeling pretty sick.