As much as it hurts knowing that Jake is gone, I would also find an, "undead Jake," story preposterous. Besides, I find it hard to believe that GW would bring LC back, give her angry, reproachful lines about not being informed of Jake's death, and then turn around and undo everything. I am sorry to hear that JI is leaving because I've really enjoyed him in story the last two days. I do try to keep abreast of hot news items and quality spoilers, but enjoy watching more when I focus on what's on my TV, rather than what might be.
Sonya...were my eyes playing tricks on me?? I just ff thru Friday.
I watched everything Edward, Michael & Jason. Tracey as well.
LOVE LOVE LOVE the idea of Michael working for QEnterprise.
Is Lulu at a whore house that Bobbie use to work at?? I went to GHHappenings and saw her dressed up in a costume!
Honestly, I couldn't bring myself to waste a beautiful day on watching such silliness.
OK maybe I am showing my age here, but the day I go to a whore house looking for my dad, SHOOT ME!! That is one storyline that looks as stupid as Spinelli's. Once I see Spinelli in those black & white dreams....I know to ff.
No wait, once I see Spinelli I know to ff.
I don't begrudge Monica being back and being in Jason's life. My issue that she should have been in Jake's life regardless of Jason. That's what has been lost to me, forever, as a Elizabeth fan. The opportunity to see Elizabeth and Jake interacting with his Quartermaine family. Monica, Edward and Emily (before she died.) I never wanted a child for Elizabeth and Jason in the first place. I wanted a relationship love story. Guza giving me Jake, as a fan, was a bonus gift. Then Guza proceeded to screw me over for it when I didn't even want it in the first place.
As for Jason's current rutting storyline, Wubs said she wasn't pregnant....yet..... Alluding to she will be at some point.
Nothing Wolf said in his interviews indicates to me that he's deviating at all from Guza's outlines. He may round it out a bit by bringing back characters such as Monica that Guza had no use for, but otherwise it's status quo, imo. Jason's still rutting and apparently getting ready to legalize his status, Carly is still his bestest BFF, etc. While Elizabeth continues without a pairing stuck in Spencer hell. To me.
AuntL-I couldn't agree with you more. Monica should have known about Jake way before his death. Instead of playing family storylines, Guza chose Mob.
Monica was all alone. Living with Grandfather & Tracey. (and Cook)
Couldn't they have written Monica a storyline about being a wealthy widow and starting the dating scene over?? Something. Instead, she is still at the 'spa'.
Honestly, I am not a Liz/Jason fan. I never saw chemistry. The only thing positive about Sam, is that Jason appears to really love her. As far as them having a baby, I don't care either way.
As far as future storylines, he has suggested that 1)Helena may be back more, 2) less Mob, 3) the show is going toward business by turning the tables and bringing in corporate information. I have wanted that forever. What I really would like to see is Jax & Michael go up against one another in business. However, Michael is a rookie still..4)a big storyline involving Alexis..5)Carly has a new love interest. So there are changes happening....Hey what happened to Shawn?? He gone??
AuntL I suspect that GW is waiting to see who he can afford to keep and who he can afford to bring back before shuffling the deck. Until they know which players are on the canvas, I think they will keep liz in dealing with aiden stuff - and that is a pretty big, fairly front burner story.
I dont agree however with your characterization of jason "rutting" as if he isnt in a love story. jason and sam were the story for years now and any hint at anything else only came in when kelly fought for contract outs. that was when guza chose to punish her fans for her wanting what her male piers were getting. I think that took guts for her to want equal treatment. Now the story is continuing and moving towards its natural conclusion - that they finally get the family that they wanted since before she lost lila - and then baby hope - and then getting shot. And where I think GW will improve on Guza is that - at least based on the SD interview kelly and steve just gave - the focus is going to be on the emotional issues and the nature of their relationship and not on oh sam almost died kind of stuff that has been way too present in their reunion storyline. I dont think she will be preggers soon - i think first gw intends to mine the love story angle - what do they want from each other, how deep is their connection, can they make forever work as a couple and then potentially as a family. I also think he is going to be more true to the friendship between liz and jason - where guza kept them completely apart - gw is now free, esp. with jake dead (so no threat of the paternity being revealed) to give them scenes together reflective of their friendship. I suspect that at some point we may see jason clarify his feelings and he will acknowledge how deep his connection will always be to liz as a person and as the mother of his child and as a friend and that he will always feel a pull towards her because of their history, but his soulmate is sam.
Tea that must have been an honest welcome to you and Aunt - Ive been around here since the days when the forums were still called TFO.
I started watching GH in 1996 because of Jax and Brenda. I knew all about Brenda's history with Sonny, but I found them toxic, and I like Mo (and Sonny with Carly when SJB was in the role.) Just not with Brenda. Jax made Brenda watchable to me. Otherwise I had no use for the character. Vanessa and Ingo were magic, to me. They became my favorite couple of any show I'd watched up to that point in time. Eclipsing Jack & Jennifer of Days.
When Becky started in August 1997 I loved Elizabeth right away as a character, but loathed that she was written with the Spencers. Hated that family from the start and have no use for the actors in the roles either (TG, GF or JJ.) Cassadines were okay, had watched NLG on Santa Barbara, liked her with Lane Davies on that show. I thought they should have done Alexis/Luke.
Back to Becky. I'd always liked Steve Burton as an actor, just didn't care for him as Jason during the 90's because of the Sonny factor (brow beating Jax in Sonny's absence during that time) and I didn't get J&R as a couple either. I'd always wanted to know if Steve and Becky would have clicked if given the chance but expected it to never happen.
At the time I fell in love with Jason and Elizabeth in 1999 it was right as Steve was leaving the show. When he came back for appearances over the next two years, my love for them grew. I thought maybe I'd get my chance when Steve returned full-time in 2002, but it seems that no one champions them as a couple to consider/write for. And by that I mean pro-actively, regardless of what some President wants. And before all the posts come out saying no writer cared about the actress/character, yes, I know the story. Sucks to be Becky. Guza had no use for her either.
I'm open-minded about other pairings for Elizabeth. Loved LiRic inspite of the twisted writing it got. Loathed Niz, it was just more Spencer hell and then of course any and all stories with Luckass. Played by any of the 3 actors in the role.
As I said, I wished for Elizabeth and Jake to have their family story with the Quartermaines, even if she and Jason weren't together, but what I got was more Spencer family hell instead. And that likely is never going to change in my favor. woohoo, only not. To me.
I second that,welcome to the boards ladies, always to see new posters here!!!
EET, oh I agree, that's why I think that if Tams is coming back, it will be another character (Kate or someone else,) And I agree GH's future hinges on whether or not the Revolution (I feel like I am back in history class) flops.
We'll see.
JAQ, I am liking the changes, the only thing is that it looks like Shawn might get the boot, who knows, we know he's not going to be with Carly.
I think Garin has a list of what he wants to do, but is going to wait and see what happens with the Revolution.
I have long wanted carly trying to keep an eye on michael at elq and mixing it up potentially with ned. I even had my dream short list for recasts thats gotten longer with oltl and amc going off. (all from oltl - ex miles, ex eli and now so to be ex john mcbain)
As for liz, I said the other day I want her to get fired at the hospital and go to work for kate (or if they are smart they make tams the person who buys the mag from kate instead of a recast) Shes had so many stories about men that giving her a chance to go toe to toe with maxie and get out of the sweater sets that guza thinks mothers wear as uniforms would give her a chance to branch out. If they want ll2 to be the end game, let her revert to how she was and let lucky fall in love with her again instead of another liz vs other female character for guy.
If shawn is really not for carly because they want her using her air time at the qs or back with jax if they keep him, then he might be good as a rebound guy for liz. between a new artistic outlook at a hot playmate, that sure would get luckys attention.
Lets hope the revolution tanks. I dont see how that works esp. following an eating show with a dieting show. Its like handing me nothing but donuts and then asking me why I havent lost weight.
AuntL...Yes you do know your history with GH! I have watched GH for over 30 years. In 1996 I gave birth to triplets, plus I had a 3 year old.
I was busy! And when I wasn't busy, I was sleeping. So for about 2 years I missed alot of GH. I also am not as committed to soaps where I remember every little detail. Not that vested.
I never liked Sonny & Brenda together, however I did like her with Jax too. I can't and won't even discuss this past year with her on the show. Buh Bye.....
I am sad to see Ingo leave the show. LOVED LOVED CarJax. Beautiful couple. I can't see her with anyone else. EVER!
Liz. I have to be honest with you. For years and years I hated the character. I felt the writing for her was that of a lying, backstabbing, gossip, lonely miserable person. So in other words, if someone like that was near me, I would go out of my way to ignore them.
However, when Jake was killed, as a mother myself, my heart hurt for her terribly. Her personality seems to have changed. She doesn't seem so obessed with other people's lives. She has enough with her own life.
I hope they keep writing the character as they are now. I of course want to see her & Lucky reunite. IMO those two are each other's soulmates.
Not really watching much of GH right now. FF thru soo much. However, I did catch the scenes with grandfather. He has been missed. So glad Monica is coming home from the 'spa' in a few days! Looking forward to Michael at ELQ!!
The Spencers are dysfunctional. I wish they would clean up Luke and retire him already. Though I would HATE to see Tracey leave, I do believe she is the love of his life and would like to see them go off together.
Hi Keanna......I disagree about abc waiting to see what happens with the Revolution. Mr Wolf is going to give GH his best writing, and hopefully that will be enough to keep the show going. If GH is good, they will find a place for them on daytime.
I guess when Shawn got the boot, he left town. Well he could have said good-bye!! lol And that other Dr friend of Lisa's??
With all my ffing, has it been mentioned what happened to him??
While on the train, I got caught up with OLTL. OMG!!
Are these teens taking over?? I can get thru an episode of OLTL in 20 minutes!!! Every summer, OLTL does this to us. This summer appears to be getting off worse than past summers!!!
I do enjoy Todd & Tommy scenes!! However, doesn't Tommy have any supervision? (Is that his name??)
He goes out to the pool by himself, watch's shootings, talking to strangers, etc..ohh well, its TV, nothing will happen to him.
OK Rex enough with Gigi & Clint. Give the heart and let's move on.
We know that is how it will end up. This hospital nonsense has gone on long enough. Now that Clint wants to gather the family, are we going to see Kevin?? Cord??
Jack, you piece of shyt. I am sure he was taught alot with what Todd did by paying off the other kids dad. He can do whatever he wants in life, and not have to pay the consequences of his behavior. After all, money talks!
And that father selling out his son!! Too keep a house!?
Don't get me started on Blair. I can't stomach her or listen to her voice. FF button!!
So you've never considered Elizabeth's issues as perhaps eminating from something in her family life before she came to Port Charles? Wondered about her absent mother and father? That all of the negative/slanted writing you saw over the years could also have been fodder for a great storyline for her under a different writer? Elizabeth, to me, has always had issues as to where she fits in the world. She's always been desperate to be part of a family. Sadly, the Spencers were the worst place for her to land, for me. Her rape became all about Luckass/Luke. Luckass was such a peach to his mother during that time too.
Your strong dislike in how she was/is written. Those same faults apply to Carly's writing as well going all the way back to her showing up on Jason's doorstep as a drowned rat in labor. And I didn't even like J&R but could see the nasty character writing beats Guza doled out during cottage hell. Guza has done Carly no favors either over the years. She came on much the same way as Elizabeth. Relationship issue with a mother/family. Guza has had no lasting use for Carly's Spencer family side connection either. Why would I want my favorite mired with that family when Guza had no use for it for one of his favorites 99.9% of the time?
To me Elizabeth's relationship with Luckass is co-dependent enabling. She sees him as her saviour following her rape, imo. She was suffocating in that relationship but couldn't see it because to stand on her own would mean losing the "family fitting in" she craved. The only time she seemed to get free of it was during LiRic.
You are a Carly fan. So you relished Carly getting in Elizabeth's face, slapping her for keeping Jake a secret from her? And then going to Jason with eyes full of tears asking why he let big bad Elizabeth convince him to not tell her the truth? Never mentioning that she'd gone to berate Elizabeth first before even going to see Jason? The minute Sam blabbed, Carly should have made a beeline to Jason for an explanation as her truest BFF yes? But she didn't. She went to Elizabeth first. That's rootable, relatable to you?
It's all about perspective. I liked Carly as a character two actresses ago. Laura's Carly is very unappealing. Tam's version was only slightly better.
I enjoyed reading your comments about Liz. The last thing that I want is for my girl to end up back in another round of LnL2...Blech. I enjoyed Liz with Ric until he went all batshiz crazy and I think part of that was LiRic turned out to be more popular than Jason/Courtney..JMO.
JAQ, you're right about that, I am sure both shows will flop and if GH turns around maybe it will just be moved up an hour.
Maybe we'll see Shawn a couple of more times before Garin takes over, and no we didn't find out what happen to Terrell, he just went poof.
OLTL,
Yeah, that's one of the few things I don't like is that in the summer the teens take over, you would think that with the show ending we see more favorites coming back.
Tommy is his name, and I guess he's just acting like a Manning.
I hope we do get to see Kevin and Cord.
Yeah, that right there with Jack and the other kids, and Todd paying them off was just sickening.
I love Blair, yeah I agree some the things she does is crazy, I can't help it love her anyway.
Keanna...If Gavin can turn this show around, I don't think they have anything to worry about, let alone another daytime fill-in show.
If we don't see Cord & Kevin, then this soap is delivering crap the rest of the year. How hard would it be to get them back for a day?
Did you see that clip with Karen Wolek on the stand?? How fun I just was at that page and boy did it bring back memories.
We all like different people on the show for different reasons. I like Carly because I feel I understand her insecurities and I know who she is.
I respect that you like Blair. I am judgemental with people's behavior!! (except mine of course) Blair, is not one of my fav's.
How could that father turn on his kid for a house?? Geezzzzz....Jack walks!
WOW what will that do to Rex?? Unless this is Rex's exit story coming. He leaves town to get away from that punk. Just a thought.
When is Cole coming back already?? Have you heard anything?
Keanna just keep in mind flop means economically and not ratings. If the Revolution pulls in decent numbers but its costs run high it will get pulled. If the Revolution pulls in low numbers but its profitable because they find a way to do it on the cheap, it will stay. Just like I believe the talk had slightly lower ratings than ATWT (at least initially I dont know what they are now) but it was considered an improvement over atwt in terms of the network because the cost to produce it was so low. Garins numbers are important but keep in mind thats in relation to what Frank V or someone of that ilk can do as EP to bring costs down and what stars will be willing to take a pay cut and what stars wont.
Anderson Cooper is in coming, katie is coming in 2012, the revolution and the chew. One has to fail in comparison in order for there to be a slot.
I enjoyed reading your comments about Liz. The last thing that I want is for my girl to end up back in another round of LnL2...Blech. I enjoyed Liz with Ric until he went all batshiz crazy and I think part of that was LiRic turned out to be more popular than Jason/Courtney..JMO.
I would agree that that seemed that LiRic did have some appeal.
Alas, I think our girl is doomed to eternal Spencer family hell. Yeah us, except not.
Heck even TG found the whole notion of L/L revolting. It was refreshing to read that he loathes it as much as I do.
JAQ, I have no doubt that Garin will turn it around he knows the history of GH, I know it's not going to happen overnight, but he will be able to pull it off.
I love Cary always have, she's flawed and makes no bones about it. She is who is she is. You're so silly JAQ, lol.
OLTL,
I watch clips of Judith Light (Karen), I was too young to watch her on there, but I knew she was on there right before Who's the Boss?, she was and still is fantastic, a lot of fun indeed.
As for Cole, I am reading September, but nothing's been finalized yet.
EET,
I know that, you can also say the same thing about Let's Make a Deal, too.
It's a shame networks are thinking that way, now.
AuntL--Love your posts. Quick question: when you say TG loathes L/L, are you referring to Luke and Laura or Liz and Lucky? I know he has spoken out about hating, "The dog, and the house, etc," meaning the writing during the Labine/Riche era, but if Geary said anything in print about Liz/Lucky, I'm not aware of it--even though I know how Luke feels about the duo, which is with not much affinity! Thank you.
Keanna just trying to be realistic because I think we have all these hopes pinned on one guy and its not one guy. we need a domino effect at these point - the fans working on the affiliates, the affiliates pushing disney, the revolution tanking (I think thats the one that has the most potential of flopping between it and the Chew), garin getting the viewers to the table with his writing, and an ep who can tame the beast that is the gh budget. I have heard that FV is a wizard when it comes to scheduling, studio use, sets and what not to maximize resources, but its ALLLL of that together that saves GH not one thing. And yes its a shame that the networks dont see the long term value but its hard to talk history and long term value when disney ultimately wants to sell the entire network. they arent thinking ten years from now they are thinking exit strategy.
I remember JL btw on OLTL. that was such a great time in the shows history. I also really loved their baby switch storyline too. They have done that a few times on daytime but to me the switch with kat and jenny was the best of the lot. they let the switch go on so long and they gave us a few points where it might come out and then you got complacent that it wasnt going to change only BOOM the truth comes out. When Jenny had to give the baby back and all the people that lied to these women were revealed it was so intense. She really should come back for a cameo...I love the josh duhmel is doing it for AMC fans who have stayed with him from his days as leo
'I love Cary always have, she's flawed and makes no bones about it.
She is who is she is. You're so silly JAQ,' lol.
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EXACTLY she is flawed and doesn't hide behind who she is. She owns up!
You know right now, between OLTL/GH I am watching very little.
I am HOOKED on the Casey Anthony trial. Shame on me.
Now that is reality TV live!!
So I need you to be my eyes & ears for what is going on with these shows!!
OK I told myself I wasn't getting on the computer. The minute I walked in today I jumped on. Time to get off. Did you get that pm from EV?? She crazy like a FOX!!
Tealita -- my comment on Geary was in regards to his character's "rapemance" pairing with Luckass's mother. But you do bring up an interesting question about what his feelings are on his ficitional offsprings pairings. Could be enlightening as well.
Alright JAQ, I'm finally in here, lol! First I want to say I really hope JJ doesn't leave! He's my favorite Lucky and I know they won't recast the role and I don't want the character of Lucky to be turned into some unfit dad...taking with a grain of salt.
I love that Michael will finally get out of the life that he seems to think is his only option and starts working at Q. But I kinda feel bad for Sonny b/c he's scared he's going to lose his son though he will be losing him that the way the Q's lost Michael...so it's karma.
JAQ your not in the minority alone, I want Jess with Baby Daddy Ford and I don't like Antonio and Jess together. Antonio was a placeholder for Nash, his insecurities made him controlling plus I liked Jess with Cristian. I don't like when siblings switch boyfriends or girlfriends. Which Nat seems fond of doing: Cristian and Brody anyone? Plus Nat married Cristian!
Alright now I'm going to head over to my post and respond to some other post.
Maybe JJ won't leave as he is able to take his son to work now.
As far as Sonny goes, screw him. He is afraid to set his son free because he may lose him?? Seriously?? He should join the Mob and live a life like daddy. SELFISH Sonny!!! (and I like Sonny)
Hey I don't care if I am in the minority liking something others don't.
That is what sets me apart from all the rest.
Antonio and Jess I just never cared for. Controlling because he was afraid of losing her.
Don't get me started on Natalie. Sleeping with your sisters fiance!!!!!
When, When is she going to get 'hers'?? NEVER. She will end up with Jawn.
The gum chewing hands in the pocket Lieutenant!!
I just posted to you on another forum.
I seen Abby tonight on the show Castle. I don't watch it, I was just flipping thru the channels. She was pretty good!! She was dating a married
man!!!!!!! I am telling Michael on her!!!!
JAQ - I'm hoping Titus being at work with him is an incentive b/c JJ (Lucky) & BH (Liz) are pretty much the only couple I am rooting for on GH.
Lol I love how you just went off on Sonny! But I also like the character and think it is time he sit back and take a break.
I don't care either Jaq, I like what I like and I make no qualms about it. So I guess we are both a part from the rest of the pack.
Yeah, I don't see a point in bringing on Antonio. I'd much rather see them use Cristian as some form of angst for Bobby & Jess.
I was so upset and underwhelmed by how Viki just brushed off Nat once again wanting someone Jess had/has. I mean that is not in character with Viki. And Nat deserves Jawn's boring, passive, could care less, indecisive attitude.
I have to get over to my Des preggo page and respond to you and Debbies.
Lol, ooh I'm sure now Michael will appear on another show and be involved in a triangle. Serves Abby right!
Oh and JAQ the little boy Todd is talking to, his name is Sam not Tommy. And boy has he seen a lot in his short life, lol but he's a cute little guy.
Your right it is Sam!! Wasn't he Tommy or TJ at one time??
What are your thoughts on this 2 story Todd?? Who gets custody of Jack? (I am so funny)
Antonio is coming back for Jess. However, I am rooting for Ford and Jess!!
I still am hoping to see Kevin & Cord this week.
I won't hold my breath though.
I want Vicki and CLint to reunite.
I know, I am crazy but they probably will. What happens to Aubry & Cutter?
Not sure how much longer I can ff thru that show and GH. My finger hurts!
I can't lie. I am rooting for a CarJax reunion!! However, it isn't looking good so I will settle for Lucky & Liz. I think I read somewhere that Lucky didn't want to be written back with Liz.
Who knows. Things change everyday.
So looking forward to Monica coming home from the 'spa' Shes been there what? Almost a year?? She must look great!! lol
Sonny. Oh I do love him. I think MB is a fantastick actor as a mobster.
But.........I can't wait for Brenda to leave him.
Who do you think Sonny will be marrying next??
And where is Claire?? Did I miss something with my ffing??
OK sweetie...thanks for checking in....have a good week.
As much as it hurts knowing that Jake is gone, I would also find an, "undead Jake," story preposterous. Besides, I find it hard to believe that GW would bring LC back, give her angry, reproachful lines about not being informed of Jake's death, and then turn around and undo everything. I am sorry to hear that JI is leaving because I've really enjoyed him in story the last two days. I do try to keep abreast of hot news items and quality spoilers, but enjoy watching more when I focus on what's on my TV, rather than what might be.
Sonya...were my eyes playing tricks on me?? I just ff thru Friday.
I watched everything Edward, Michael & Jason. Tracey as well.
LOVE LOVE LOVE the idea of Michael working for QEnterprise.
Is Lulu at a whore house that Bobbie use to work at?? I went to GHHappenings and saw her dressed up in a costume!
Honestly, I couldn't bring myself to waste a beautiful day on watching such silliness.
OK maybe I am showing my age here, but the day I go to a whore house looking for my dad, SHOOT ME!! That is one storyline that looks as stupid as Spinelli's. Once I see Spinelli in those black & white dreams....I know to ff.
No wait, once I see Spinelli I know to ff.
Debi
WELCOME Ladies!!
JAQ,
I don't begrudge Monica being back and being in Jason's life. My issue that she should have been in Jake's life regardless of Jason. That's what has been lost to me, forever, as a Elizabeth fan. The opportunity to see Elizabeth and Jake interacting with his Quartermaine family. Monica, Edward and Emily (before she died.) I never wanted a child for Elizabeth and Jason in the first place. I wanted a relationship love story. Guza giving me Jake, as a fan, was a bonus gift. Then Guza proceeded to screw me over for it when I didn't even want it in the first place.
As for Jason's current rutting storyline, Wubs said she wasn't pregnant....yet..... Alluding to she will be at some point.
Nothing Wolf said in his interviews indicates to me that he's deviating at all from Guza's outlines. He may round it out a bit by bringing back characters such as Monica that Guza had no use for, but otherwise it's status quo, imo. Jason's still rutting and apparently getting ready to legalize his status, Carly is still his bestest BFF, etc. While Elizabeth continues without a pairing stuck in Spencer hell. To me.
And what a nice welcome it is!!! Thanks. Hope you meant me.
AuntL-I couldn't agree with you more. Monica should have known about Jake way before his death. Instead of playing family storylines, Guza chose Mob.
Monica was all alone. Living with Grandfather & Tracey. (and Cook)
Couldn't they have written Monica a storyline about being a wealthy widow and starting the dating scene over?? Something. Instead, she is still at the 'spa'.
Honestly, I am not a Liz/Jason fan. I never saw chemistry. The only thing positive about Sam, is that Jason appears to really love her. As far as them having a baby, I don't care either way.
As far as future storylines, he has suggested that 1)Helena may be back more, 2) less Mob, 3) the show is going toward business by turning the tables and bringing in corporate information. I have wanted that forever. What I really would like to see is Jax & Michael go up against one another in business. However, Michael is a rookie still..4)a big storyline involving Alexis..5)Carly has a new love interest. So there are changes happening....Hey what happened to Shawn?? He gone??
Can I ask you how long you been watching GH??
Debi
AuntL I suspect that GW is waiting to see who he can afford to keep and who he can afford to bring back before shuffling the deck. Until they know which players are on the canvas, I think they will keep liz in dealing with aiden stuff - and that is a pretty big, fairly front burner story.
I dont agree however with your characterization of jason "rutting" as if he isnt in a love story. jason and sam were the story for years now and any hint at anything else only came in when kelly fought for contract outs. that was when guza chose to punish her fans for her wanting what her male piers were getting. I think that took guts for her to want equal treatment. Now the story is continuing and moving towards its natural conclusion - that they finally get the family that they wanted since before she lost lila - and then baby hope - and then getting shot. And where I think GW will improve on Guza is that - at least based on the SD interview kelly and steve just gave - the focus is going to be on the emotional issues and the nature of their relationship and not on oh sam almost died kind of stuff that has been way too present in their reunion storyline. I dont think she will be preggers soon - i think first gw intends to mine the love story angle - what do they want from each other, how deep is their connection, can they make forever work as a couple and then potentially as a family. I also think he is going to be more true to the friendship between liz and jason - where guza kept them completely apart - gw is now free, esp. with jake dead (so no threat of the paternity being revealed) to give them scenes together reflective of their friendship. I suspect that at some point we may see jason clarify his feelings and he will acknowledge how deep his connection will always be to liz as a person and as the mother of his child and as a friend and that he will always feel a pull towards her because of their history, but his soulmate is sam.
Tea that must have been an honest welcome to you and Aunt - Ive been around here since the days when the forums were still called TFO.
JAQ,
I started watching GH in 1996 because of Jax and Brenda. I knew all about Brenda's history with Sonny, but I found them toxic, and I like Mo (and Sonny with Carly when SJB was in the role.) Just not with Brenda. Jax made Brenda watchable to me. Otherwise I had no use for the character. Vanessa and Ingo were magic, to me. They became my favorite couple of any show I'd watched up to that point in time. Eclipsing Jack & Jennifer of Days.
When Becky started in August 1997 I loved Elizabeth right away as a character, but loathed that she was written with the Spencers. Hated that family from the start and have no use for the actors in the roles either (TG, GF or JJ.) Cassadines were okay, had watched NLG on Santa Barbara, liked her with Lane Davies on that show. I thought they should have done Alexis/Luke.
Back to Becky. I'd always liked Steve Burton as an actor, just didn't care for him as Jason during the 90's because of the Sonny factor (brow beating Jax in Sonny's absence during that time) and I didn't get J&R as a couple either. I'd always wanted to know if Steve and Becky would have clicked if given the chance but expected it to never happen.
At the time I fell in love with Jason and Elizabeth in 1999 it was right as Steve was leaving the show. When he came back for appearances over the next two years, my love for them grew. I thought maybe I'd get my chance when Steve returned full-time in 2002, but it seems that no one champions them as a couple to consider/write for. And by that I mean pro-actively, regardless of what some President wants. And before all the posts come out saying no writer cared about the actress/character, yes, I know the story. Sucks to be Becky. Guza had no use for her either.
I'm open-minded about other pairings for Elizabeth. Loved LiRic inspite of the twisted writing it got. Loathed Niz, it was just more Spencer hell and then of course any and all stories with Luckass. Played by any of the 3 actors in the role.
As I said, I wished for Elizabeth and Jake to have their family story with the Quartermaines, even if she and Jason weren't together, but what I got was more Spencer family hell instead. And that likely is never going to change in my favor. woohoo, only not. To me.
I second that,welcome to the boards ladies, always to see new posters here!!!
EET, oh I agree, that's why I think that if Tams is coming back, it will be another character (Kate or someone else,) And I agree GH's future hinges on whether or not the Revolution (I feel like I am back in history class) flops.
We'll see.
JAQ, I am liking the changes, the only thing is that it looks like Shawn might get the boot, who knows, we know he's not going to be with Carly.
I think Garin has a list of what he wants to do, but is going to wait and see what happens with the Revolution.
I have long wanted carly trying to keep an eye on michael at elq and mixing it up potentially with ned. I even had my dream short list for recasts thats gotten longer with oltl and amc going off. (all from oltl - ex miles, ex eli and now so to be ex john mcbain)
As for liz, I said the other day I want her to get fired at the hospital and go to work for kate (or if they are smart they make tams the person who buys the mag from kate instead of a recast) Shes had so many stories about men that giving her a chance to go toe to toe with maxie and get out of the sweater sets that guza thinks mothers wear as uniforms would give her a chance to branch out. If they want ll2 to be the end game, let her revert to how she was and let lucky fall in love with her again instead of another liz vs other female character for guy.
If shawn is really not for carly because they want her using her air time at the qs or back with jax if they keep him, then he might be good as a rebound guy for liz. between a new artistic outlook at a hot playmate, that sure would get luckys attention.
Lets hope the revolution tanks. I dont see how that works esp. following an eating show with a dieting show. Its like handing me nothing but donuts and then asking me why I havent lost weight.
AuntL...Yes you do know your history with GH! I have watched GH for over 30 years. In 1996 I gave birth to triplets, plus I had a 3 year old.
I was busy! And when I wasn't busy, I was sleeping. So for about 2 years I missed alot of GH. I also am not as committed to soaps where I remember every little detail. Not that vested.
I never liked Sonny & Brenda together, however I did like her with Jax too.
I can't and won't even discuss this past year with her on the show. Buh Bye.....
I am sad to see Ingo leave the show. LOVED LOVED CarJax. Beautiful couple. I can't see her with anyone else. EVER!
Liz. I have to be honest with you. For years and years I hated the character. I felt the writing for her was that of a lying, backstabbing, gossip, lonely miserable person. So in other words, if someone like that was near me, I would go out of my way to ignore them.
However, when Jake was killed, as a mother myself, my heart hurt for her terribly. Her personality seems to have changed. She doesn't seem so obessed with other people's lives. She has enough with her own life.
I hope they keep writing the character as they are now. I of course want to see her & Lucky reunite. IMO those two are each other's soulmates.
Not really watching much of GH right now. FF thru soo much. However, I did catch the scenes with grandfather. He has been missed. So glad Monica is coming home from the 'spa' in a few days!
Looking forward to Michael at ELQ!!
The Spencers are dysfunctional. I wish they would clean up Luke and retire him already. Though I would HATE to see Tracey leave, I do believe she is the love of his life and would like to see them go off together.
I never type this much!!
Hi Keanna......I disagree about abc waiting to see what happens with the Revolution. Mr Wolf is going to give GH his best writing, and hopefully that will be enough to keep the show going. If GH is good, they will find a place for them on daytime.
I guess when Shawn got the boot, he left town. Well he could have said good-bye!! lol And that other Dr friend of Lisa's??
With all my ffing, has it been mentioned what happened to him??
While on the train, I got caught up with OLTL. OMG!!
Are these teens taking over?? I can get thru an episode of OLTL in 20 minutes!!! Every summer, OLTL does this to us. This summer appears to be getting off worse than past summers!!!
I do enjoy Todd & Tommy scenes!! However, doesn't Tommy have any supervision? (Is that his name??)
He goes out to the pool by himself, watch's shootings, talking to strangers, etc..ohh well, its TV, nothing will happen to him.
OK Rex enough with Gigi & Clint. Give the heart and let's move on.
We know that is how it will end up. This hospital nonsense has gone on long enough. Now that Clint wants to gather the family, are we going to see Kevin?? Cord??
Jack, you piece of shyt. I am sure he was taught alot with what Todd did by paying off the other kids dad. He can do whatever he wants in life, and not have to pay the consequences of his behavior. After all, money talks!
And that father selling out his son!! Too keep a house!?
Don't get me started on Blair.
I can't stomach her or listen to her voice. FF button!!
JAQ,
So you've never considered Elizabeth's issues as perhaps eminating from something in her family life before she came to Port Charles? Wondered about her absent mother and father? That all of the negative/slanted writing you saw over the years could also have been fodder for a great storyline for her under a different writer? Elizabeth, to me, has always had issues as to where she fits in the world. She's always been desperate to be part of a family. Sadly, the Spencers were the worst place for her to land, for me. Her rape became all about Luckass/Luke. Luckass was such a peach to his mother during that time too.
Your strong dislike in how she was/is written. Those same faults apply to Carly's writing as well going all the way back to her showing up on Jason's doorstep as a drowned rat in labor. And I didn't even like J&R but could see the nasty character writing beats Guza doled out during cottage hell. Guza has done Carly no favors either over the years. She came on much the same way as Elizabeth. Relationship issue with a mother/family. Guza has had no lasting use for Carly's Spencer family side connection either. Why would I want my favorite mired with that family when Guza had no use for it for one of his favorites 99.9% of the time?
To me Elizabeth's relationship with Luckass is co-dependent enabling. She sees him as her saviour following her rape, imo. She was suffocating in that relationship but couldn't see it because to stand on her own would mean losing the "family fitting in" she craved. The only time she seemed to get free of it was during LiRic.
You are a Carly fan. So you relished Carly getting in Elizabeth's face, slapping her for keeping Jake a secret from her? And then going to Jason with eyes full of tears asking why he let big bad Elizabeth convince him to not tell her the truth? Never mentioning that she'd gone to berate Elizabeth first before even going to see Jason? The minute Sam blabbed, Carly should have made a beeline to Jason for an explanation as her truest BFF yes? But she didn't. She went to Elizabeth first. That's rootable, relatable to you?
It's all about perspective. I liked Carly as a character two actresses ago. Laura's Carly is very unappealing. Tam's version was only slightly better.
AuntL....Welcome!
I enjoyed reading your comments about Liz. The last thing that I want is for my girl to end up back in another round of LnL2...Blech. I enjoyed Liz with Ric until he went all batshiz crazy and I think part of that was LiRic turned out to be more popular than Jason/Courtney..JMO.
JAQ,
It's not my intent to tit for tat about our favorites. The writing for Carly is in the same hideous boat as it is for Elizabeth. Agreed?
As for who I am? I'm me. What other places do you think you might know me from?
It's not my intent to tit for tat about our favorites. The writing for Carly is in the same hideous boat as it is for Elizabeth. Agreed?
Yes that I can agree with.
JAQ, you're right about that, I am sure both shows will flop and if GH turns around maybe it will just be moved up an hour.
Maybe we'll see Shawn a couple of more times before Garin takes over, and no we didn't find out what happen to Terrell, he just went poof.
OLTL,
Yeah, that's one of the few things I don't like is that in the summer the teens take over, you would think that with the show ending we see more favorites coming back.
Tommy is his name, and I guess he's just acting like a Manning.
I hope we do get to see Kevin and Cord.
Yeah, that right there with Jack and the other kids, and Todd paying them off was just sickening.
I love Blair, yeah I agree some the things she does is crazy, I can't help it love her anyway.
Keanna...If Gavin can turn this show around, I don't think they have anything to worry about, let alone another daytime fill-in show.
If we don't see Cord & Kevin, then this soap is delivering crap the rest of the year. How hard would it be to get them back for a day?
Did you see that clip with Karen Wolek on the stand?? How fun I just was at that page and boy did it bring back memories.
We all like different people on the show for different reasons. I like Carly because I feel I understand her insecurities and I know who she is.
(except mine of course) Blair, is not one of my fav's.
I respect that you like Blair. I am judgemental with people's behavior!!
How could that father turn on his kid for a house?? Geezzzzz....Jack walks!
WOW what will that do to Rex?? Unless this is Rex's exit story coming. He leaves town to get away from that punk. Just a thought.
When is Cole coming back already?? Have you heard anything?
Keanna just keep in mind flop means economically and not ratings. If the Revolution pulls in decent numbers but its costs run high it will get pulled. If the Revolution pulls in low numbers but its profitable because they find a way to do it on the cheap, it will stay. Just like I believe the talk had slightly lower ratings than ATWT (at least initially I dont know what they are now) but it was considered an improvement over atwt in terms of the network because the cost to produce it was so low. Garins numbers are important but keep in mind thats in relation to what Frank V or someone of that ilk can do as EP to bring costs down and what stars will be willing to take a pay cut and what stars wont.
Anderson Cooper is in coming, katie is coming in 2012, the revolution and the chew. One has to fail in comparison in order for there to be a slot.
You would think soaps would get a clue and stop running those silly teen s/l during the summer months!
I enjoyed reading your comments about Liz. The last thing that I want is for my girl to end up back in another round of LnL2...Blech. I enjoyed Liz with Ric until he went all batshiz crazy and I think part of that was LiRic turned out to be more popular than Jason/Courtney..JMO.
I would agree that that seemed that LiRic did have some appeal.
Alas, I think our girl is doomed to eternal Spencer family hell. Yeah us, except not.
Heck even TG found the whole notion of L/L revolting. It was refreshing to read that he loathes it as much as I do.
JAQ, I have no doubt that Garin will turn it around he knows the history of GH, I know it's not going to happen overnight, but he will be able to pull it off.
I love Cary always have, she's flawed and makes no bones about it. She is who is she is. You're so silly JAQ, lol.
OLTL,
I watch clips of Judith Light (Karen), I was too young to watch her on there, but I knew she was on there right before Who's the Boss?, she was and still is fantastic, a lot of fun indeed.
As for Cole, I am reading September, but nothing's been finalized yet.
EET,
I know that, you can also say the same thing about Let's Make a Deal, too.
It's a shame networks are thinking that way, now.
AuntL--Love your posts. Quick question: when you say TG loathes L/L, are you referring to Luke and Laura or Liz and Lucky? I know he has spoken out about hating, "The dog, and the house, etc," meaning the writing during the Labine/Riche era, but if Geary said anything in print about Liz/Lucky, I'm not aware of it--even though I know how Luke feels about the duo, which is with not much affinity! Thank you.
Keanna just trying to be realistic because I think we have all these hopes pinned on one guy and its not one guy. we need a domino effect at these point - the fans working on the affiliates, the affiliates pushing disney, the revolution tanking (I think thats the one that has the most potential of flopping between it and the Chew), garin getting the viewers to the table with his writing, and an ep who can tame the beast that is the gh budget. I have heard that FV is a wizard when it comes to scheduling, studio use, sets and what not to maximize resources, but its ALLLL of that together that saves GH not one thing. And yes its a shame that the networks dont see the long term value but its hard to talk history and long term value when disney ultimately wants to sell the entire network. they arent thinking ten years from now they are thinking exit strategy.
I remember JL btw on OLTL. that was such a great time in the shows history. I also really loved their baby switch storyline too. They have done that a few times on daytime but to me the switch with kat and jenny was the best of the lot. they let the switch go on so long and they gave us a few points where it might come out and then you got complacent that it wasnt going to change only BOOM the truth comes out. When Jenny had to give the baby back and all the people that lied to these women were revealed it was so intense. She really should come back for a cameo...I love the josh duhmel is doing it for AMC fans who have stayed with him from his days as leo
'I love Cary always have, she's flawed and makes no bones about it.
She is who is she is. You're so silly JAQ,' lol.
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EXACTLY she is flawed and doesn't hide behind who she is. She owns up!
You know right now, between OLTL/GH I am watching very little.
I am HOOKED on the Casey Anthony trial. Shame on me.
Now that is reality TV live!!
So I need you to be my eyes & ears for what is going on with these shows!!
OK I told myself I wasn't getting on the computer. The minute I walked in today I jumped on. Time to get off. Did you get that pm from EV?? She crazy like a FOX!!
Tealita -- my comment on Geary was in regards to his character's "rapemance" pairing with Luckass's mother. But you do bring up an interesting question about what his feelings are on his ficitional offsprings pairings. Could be enlightening as well.
Alright JAQ, I'm finally in here, lol! First I want to say I really hope JJ doesn't leave! He's my favorite Lucky and I know they won't recast the role and I don't want the character of Lucky to be turned into some unfit dad...taking with a grain of salt.
I love that Michael will finally get out of the life that he seems to think is his only option and starts working at Q. But I kinda feel bad for Sonny b/c he's scared he's going to lose his son though he will be losing him that the way the Q's lost Michael...so it's karma.
JAQ your not in the minority alone, I want Jess with Baby Daddy Ford and I don't like Antonio and Jess together. Antonio was a placeholder for Nash, his insecurities made him controlling plus I liked Jess with Cristian. I don't like when siblings switch boyfriends or girlfriends. Which Nat seems fond of doing: Cristian and Brody anyone? Plus Nat married Cristian!
Alright now I'm going to head over to my post and respond to some other post.
Maybe JJ won't leave as he is able to take his son to work now.
As far as Sonny goes, screw him. He is afraid to set his son free because he may lose him?? Seriously?? He should join the Mob and live a life like daddy. SELFISH Sonny!!! (and I like Sonny)
Hey I don't care if I am in the minority liking something others don't.
That is what sets me apart from all the rest.
Antonio and Jess I just never cared for. Controlling because he was afraid of losing her.
Don't get me started on Natalie. Sleeping with your sisters fiance!!!!!
When, When is she going to get 'hers'?? NEVER. She will end up with Jawn.
The gum chewing hands in the pocket Lieutenant!!
I just posted to you on another forum.
I seen Abby tonight on the show Castle. I don't watch it, I was just flipping thru the channels. She was pretty good!! She was dating a married
I am telling Michael on her!!!! 
man!!!!!!!
JAQ - I'm hoping Titus being at work with him is an incentive b/c JJ (Lucky) & BH (Liz) are pretty much the only couple I am rooting for on GH.
Lol I love how you just went off on Sonny! But I also like the character and think it is time he sit back and take a break.
I don't care either Jaq, I like what I like and I make no qualms about it. So I guess we are both a part from the rest of the pack.
Yeah, I don't see a point in bringing on Antonio. I'd much rather see them use Cristian as some form of angst for Bobby & Jess.
I was so upset and underwhelmed by how Viki just brushed off Nat once again wanting someone Jess had/has. I mean that is not in character with Viki. And Nat deserves Jawn's boring, passive, could care less, indecisive attitude.
I have to get over to my Des preggo page and respond to you and Debbies.
Lol, ooh I'm sure now Michael will appear on another show and be involved in a triangle.
Serves Abby right!
Oh and JAQ the little boy Todd is talking to, his name is Sam not Tommy. And boy has he seen a lot in his short life, lol but he's a cute little guy.
Your right it is Sam!! Wasn't he Tommy or TJ at one time??
(I am so funny)
What are your thoughts on this 2 story Todd?? Who gets custody of Jack?
Antonio is coming back for Jess. However, I am rooting for Ford and Jess!!
I still am hoping to see Kevin & Cord this week.
I won't hold my breath though.
I want Vicki and CLint to reunite.
I know, I am crazy but they probably will. What happens to Aubry & Cutter?
Not sure how much longer I can ff thru that show and GH. My finger hurts!
I can't lie. I am rooting for a
CarJax reunion!! However, it isn't looking good so I will settle for Lucky & Liz. I think I read somewhere that Lucky didn't want to be written back with Liz.
Who knows. Things change everyday.
So looking forward to Monica coming home from the 'spa' Shes been there what? Almost a year?? She must look great!! lol
Sonny. Oh I do love him. I think MB is a fantastick actor as a mobster.
But.........I can't wait for Brenda to leave him.
Who do you think Sonny will be marrying next??
And where is Claire?? Did I miss something with my ffing??
OK sweetie...thanks for checking in....have a good week.
Deb