I am not crazy about killing kids on a Soap but I have to say if done right it would be a great soapy story. Everyone still talks abotu when BJ was hit by a car and her heart was given to Maxie, or on AMC when Brook's daughter was hit by a car and you all mentioned Bo and Hope.
I just want something to come of of this story. Not just Jake dies, Liz goes crazy and we are done. Why couldnt'Jakes death be saving someone? Using this time to get it across to the audience about organ transplants would be a helpful message.
To me (and many others that I have read on other boards) Jake could be Lukes grandson by his looks also. They had his hair standing up on end like Luke wears his (or Jason wears his... LOL). I would want Lucky to have the kids. He is the father to Cam and Jake. Jason should not be anything to them unless like Erica said Uncle Jason. Now if Liz was dying and knew she was dying she should be allowed to name who she wants to raise her kids. IF Liz dies then I want them to write it like this.
Liz knows what she knows and would be able to assign the kids to whoemever as long as she states her reasons.(To Lucky, Jason, Nik, Steven whoever she includes in her wishes)you would think she had this taken care of in her will as you WOULD think Diane made her do a will when she got 5 million from Jason. Accidents happen all the time and lawyers should be thinking of the kids and Liz and the future of said kids.
Not sure how many of you are old enough to remember, but years ago Bobbie had a daughter who was killed. She was Jake's age. It was one of the BEST storylines. Not because she was killed, but due to the actors. People still talk about it. And that is why I thing TPTB are going to revisit this story with another character.
To stoop so low to kill a child will cost them this viewer.
IF what I am hearing is true, there is no reason for me to tune in. With the exception of only a few, everyone else is on the way out. And YES, I believe that.
The only reason I was hanging on to this show, was I thought with the return of Dr Steve, they would bring back the Webber family.
How stupid was I??
I remember BJ’s heart story, JAQ. The actors brought that story home, as you said. Now with Jake, if they go there, there needs to be a purpose. (I have other thoughts on WHY this would occur, but won't go into it here.) I don't want another child to be sacrificed on this show as I've said time and time again, but TPTB don't seem to care what we fans want. But if they DID, it would need to be more than just to get rid of Jake and make Liz crazy.
When they killed off BJ, Maxie in turn got her heart and that was one of the most powerful stories the show has ever written. To this day, it has lasting affects because it served a purpose. Maxie being sick and then BJ in the bus accident, it all came together as one cohesive story. Killing off Jake to send Liz to the loony bin serves no purpose if that is the only reason to get rid of them both. It’s a plot point that I think is utterly ridiculous, just to make Liz go even more insane. You say you're going to tune out, and I'm quite sure you'll have plenty of other folks who will as well.
***A former Super-Stan. Sorry, Unholy Trinity, I’ve stopped drinking the Kool-Aid.***
BJ's death is one of my all time favorite soap storylines. I just watched a clip of this online not long ago. Kristina Malandro BROUGHT it and makes me cry everytime I watch the scene where she found out from Bobbie that Maxie got BJ's heart and sunk to her knees in the hospital hallway. I believe that story was written by Claire Labine. I really am hoping they won't kill off Jake OR Molly. I have a hard time thinking they would kill of Jason's son. However, from what I have read, Frons is the reason RH was fired and is a major Jason/Sam supporter so I wouldn't put it past him to kill off the lasting connection between Jason and Liz as Liz exits just to keep Jason/Liz fans from keeping up hope of a reconciliation. That said, I'm neither a supporter of Jason/Sam or Jason/Liz, I like him with both but that's just my opinion of WHY they would go there with killing off Jake.
4 Now...this is one upcoming storyline I am not looking forward to. I do know that it has been phrased that Liz's character will be open door if they decide to bring her back.
From one day to the next, this show doesn't know a thing!!
I also read that it is Molly who dies. She meets her fate with the Balkin. Right now I can't verify either one other than a rumor.
No child storyline should be used to up ratings. That makes TPTB even sicker than they already are!!!!!!
Beans-I remember Tony. And how hard it was for him. I cried so hard, I was making crying noises!! So for me, it was Tony. Didn't Frisco come back to? So what, he seen his daughter twice in her life?
You saying that they don’t know one thing from the next reminded me of the Karen Harris interview I just read, JAQ. She just left her position as a script writer for GH. It explains so much. Basically, behind the scenes is just chaos. The show is producing more on quantity, NOT quality, so in the end, fans get screwed and IMO, characters act more OUT of character than should ever be necessary because of this very reason. Basically, they just want to get it on the page, right or not. It’s all about time, time, time, money, money, money. That’s why so much that has been happening on screen as of late is inconsistent from one scene to the next. Sad. Even during hectic times, this show could still produce top-notch material. IMHO, writing crap is no excuse when much of what you see is more of what they want, rather than what WE want. I think they forget that the fans almost always know the history of our shows better than they do. But, I digress.
Here's the link for that interview in case anyone is interested in taking a look; it's in three parts: http://soaps.sheknows.com/generalhospital/news/id/14727/Interview_Former...
I havent seen any rumors about molly. The spoilers I saw had to do with either Robin or Siobhan as the driver (the Siobhan rumor is that Robin tries and fails to save Jake) and Jake dying accidentally. I think the idea here isnt social message so much as its going to have ripples all across the canvas. Jake's death affects virtually every single character. It hits every Spencer, it hits everyone connected to Jason, it hits scrubs etc. etc. The BJ story wasnt important because of the organ transplant aspect per se (IMHO) but because we got to see the horror and the joy simulateously hit every single person connected to bj and/or maxie. If the story hits one beat - liz leaving or going crazy - to me thats insufficient, but if it forever alters relationships and attitudes for years to come, THAT is soap.
That’s my entire point. Jake's death doesn't need to be a message and I didn't think BJ's heart was a message story. But the story served a purpose. It wasn't just a little girl dying for the sake of it or just to get rid of one or both of her parents. My inclusion of the DOOL storyline involving Bo and Hope was that regardless of whatever message sent, the story itself served a purpose.
All I ask is that Jakes death mean something more than Liz going loony or looking like some careless parent. I said it before, I’ll say it again, I don’t agree with killing off children, but if/when it happens, there needs to be a reason for it, not just to adjust plot. I just can’t agree with or get behind the idea otherwise.
Agreed and as usual a good idea could turn out to be crap. the devil will be in the proverbial details (script)
Thank you for agreeing, EET. That said, it’s the script, all the scripts, that scare me, really, especially since reading the Karen Harris interview about how quickly they get them out nowadays, and that it’s all about how much you get on the page, rather than what is actually written for the actors… When I read Perkie’s observations and I see her and others asking about various scenes being out of sync or characters being OOC so often, I realize now that it’s more of a rush job behind the scenes, which is why when something happens in one scene and then in the next, it’s as if what you just saw never happened, you’re left scratching your head and going, ‘Whaa???’. It’s sad how everything has to be a rush job these days and we fans don’t always get the quality storytelling we deserve because of it. Sigh. I guess we’ll always have YouTube!
Off note, I read that Luke and Laura are going to be just two of the legendary soap stars on Oprah Feb. 9. She’s dedicating her entire show to soaps that day. I hope she includes something about ATWT and GL, because I really got into both of them years before they hit the big C. I may be upset with what is happening on various soaps these days, but I’ve been a ride or die chick for 20 years and I’ll be one til the last Soap airs, so I’ll be watching Ms. O as she screams every name that comes out on stage, lol!
4Now...I did read that article this week. Not surprised to read it.
The show didn't go in the direction TPTB were hoping for.
And that happens in alot of business's. And this is a business. Let's not forget that. The difference is GH only cares about what TPTB want. Not what the viewers want. (customers) That is why the show is sinking.
Behind the scenes, it must be like walking on "thin ice" there.
That is why she left her position. Couldn't take it anymore.
And to go public with the story, shows how unhappy she must have been with her job (TPTB)!!!
OK..they messed up by bringing Brenduh back in the style they did. Instead of making it right, by giving us what we have been asking for (history) (more airtime with favs) they are firing our fav's and they don't know there ass from a hole in the ground. Can I say that?? I just did!! lol
I will believe nothing but the 2 stories I did hear that I do believe.
The rest, who stays, who goes, we will wait to see.
EET...I DID read, that whoever of the 2 kids die, it affects a number of families. So maybe it is Jake.
All I ask is that Jakes death mean something more than Liz going loony or looking like some careless parent. I said it before, I’ll say it again, I don’t agree with killing off children, but if/when it happens, there needs to be a reason for it, not just to adjust plot.
I think Jake's death would affect the canvas as a whole, more than Molly's. Jake dying would pave the way for Liz to go loony and to let Jason realize that something could happen to a child regardless of whether his parent is in the mob or not (enter baby Jasam). The Spensers, Webbers and Quartermaines lose a grandchild, etc. His death would be huge and make for some amazing material if it's done right. I really don't want another child to be killed, but honestly, it makes the most sense.
I hope we get some scenes with Monica and Edward - exploring how they feel about not being told. I still get annoyed thinking of Jason asking Liz if he could tell Monica while she was in rehab - to give her something to hold on to after all her losses - and Liz said NO. When she told Laura because she couldnt lie to her, ooooh I was so po'ed. Poor monica never got to hold him and Edward never got to look into the boys eyes and see Lila in them. I hope monica loses it on them at some point after all the times she brought Jason antibotics and kept his secrets, standing by him instead of AJ over Michael's custody, taking the boy in after his coma...I always felt that even if they didnt tell edward because he might not keep the secret, certainly monica could have been told. I hope Monica reminds him of that and I hope she reminds Liz that Emily would have been ashamed of her. I wish they could get rachel ames back for a guest appearance too.
In a perfect world ETT those scenes would be played out in respect for the viewers who have grown to love the Q's and know there history.
I wouldn't hold my breath with it happening with Guza, Elton John, etc...running the show.
I'm glad I came over here and read over all the dead children talk. Even though it's hard to believe these "writers" would even consider it but anywho...I will surely be watching Oprah yell and repeat every word just to get a look at my favorite soap couples.
Man it's a shame we can only look at the old as the greatest time in a soap that has been on for decades. Thanx for the info!
EET - I am pretty sure that Emily knew about Jake. I think she told Jason she figured it out on her own. I will say that if Jake dies, and it's not brought out that Jason is his father, I will be very pissed.
Yes Emily did know, I meant more that Emily would be ashamed that her best friend chose not to trust her mother with the truth at a time when she really needed that truth while at the same time telling her ex mother-in-law. When Emily figured it out, she was obviously alive and although Monica was grieving Alan, at least Monica had Em to lean on. If she knew she was going to die, I dont know that she would have kept the truth from her mother - her grandfather maybe, because he wouldnt have kept the secret - but monica, I dont thinks so.