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Yeah please keep me updated b/c I don't a child to die and I don't want Liz going crazy.

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Its makes ZERO sense to me that Luke would be on one side of the world married to someone else while Laura is alive and well on the other side of the world. As humorous as Tracy and Luke are, I've never bought it that he is IN LOVE with her as he is with Laura.
Brenda- she can leave for a while as far as I am concerned. BUT I also read on that same site that Brenda/Jax fans will be getting some interaction that will make them happy coming up. I'm all for that!

I was never a fan of Luke & Laura. I have only started liking Luke since he married Tracey. IMO Laura outgrew Luke years ago. Years and years ago! Glad she got away from him. I would like to see her with Scott. Don't know what her status is with the show, but I promise to let you know if and when I hear.
As far as Brenduh goes, I can't stand her. I was a fan back in the day, but no more. I am looking forward to her time off my screen.
As far as her & Jax go, now them I liked together!! I also heard that they get closer when she returns. Not a bad thing!! Sexy
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Evangeline Vega wrote:
Yeah please keep me updated b/c I don't a child to die and I don't want Liz going crazy.

A really good friend of mine has a column on About.com. And I emailed her last night after I read your post about Jake. She said she hasn't heard that, and to expect alot of rumors, but as far as she knows, Liz goes to the lonney bin and the boys stay behind. Which will prove to be intersting!!
Again no fan of Liz, but maybe, this is there was of letting her come back in time??

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Well Laura went to the looney bin and only came back for a couple of weeks and then went back to the bin, then she came back onlyto leave for London, so I wouldnt be certain that Liz would return. If anything what I am hearing is that they backlash may have bought a reprieve for someone else thats a fan favorite/vet and was going to be axed. I assumed that was suggesting NLG, if I have to choose between one or the other, I would rather have Alexis on the canvas. I almost think the backlash may have hurt her chances for a return, because evenutally it will die down, so why risk bringing her back temporarily here and there if its only going to start all that up again. I heard thats part of why we havent seen more of robert and anna over the years because every time they pop in the fans start clamoring for a full on return all over again. Plus, I think budgets are going to continue to decrease until the end of the genre. If theres no money this year, I dont see how there would be money next year. That said, I hope they dont kill jake - that would create backlash big time should jaSam have a baby and I dont want viewers to be focused on that.

I too would like to see Laura return with Scotty. I dont think luke and laura together make sense anymore...Laura yes outgrew him the minute she decided that his antics had to stop and she wanted roots, but her love for him kept her hanging in. Meanwhile, Laura was loving a man that wasnt too - neither Luke nor laura ever really loved each other "as is" - she loved him adventurous side, but thought he would eventually outgrow it, like that wasnt really him, but it was a phase. Their on the road status was total fantasy for her. Luke on the other hand loved Laura as his perfect little princess. What 50 year old woman wants to be treated like a perfect little princess?? Conversely tracy sees luke warts and all and loves him even though he drinks too much, takes off on a whim, and gets her in trouble with the law and he loves her warts and all knowing she can be abrasive, domineering etc. Thats why IMHO their relationship makes far more sense. His love for laura and hers for him is so epic because it isnt encumbered by reality.

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I would rather Liz go the looney bin than be killed off. But like everyone else, I'm wondering what will happen with the boys. That may be why the sudden scene with Jason/Sam/Jake. Maybe they will end up with Jake.

JAQ- I can totally see your point about Laura outgrowing Luke. I agree that Laura outgrew the relationship as far as she outgrew the need for adventure and wanted to settle down in a stable home and live a family life and that has never been Luke. I believe the writers have used that as the reasoning as to WHY Laura and Luke aren't together. But I still believe that Laura always has been and always will be the love of Luke's life. I did like Laura with Scotty as well and always felt sorry for Scotty that he kept losing out to Luke because Scotty loves Laura dearly.

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I hope not. Jake belongs with his brothers with Lucky, not with Jason and Sam. I would hope if Jason is going to have a kid with Sam that he would want some role with Jake too, but as uncle Jason. I just dont think it would be fair to Jake to have his mother away and then have to cope with losing the only father he knows and living day in day out with his brothers.

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EricasEvilTwin wrote:
I assumed that was suggesting NLG, if I have to choose between one or the other, I would rather have Alexis on the canvas. That said, I hope they dont kill jake - that would create backlash big time should jaSam have a baby and I dont want viewers to be focused on that.
I too would like to see Laura return with Scotty. I dont think luke and laura together make sense anymore...Laura yes outgrew him the minute she decided that his antics had to stop and she wanted roots, but her love for him kept her hanging in. Meanwhile, Laura was loving a man that wasnt too - neither Luke nor laura ever really loved each other "as is" - she loved him adventurous side, but thought he would eventually outgrow it, like that wasnt really him, but it was a phase. Their on the road status was total fantasy for her. His love for laura and hers for him is so epic because it isnt encumbered by reality.

EET...GREAT Post! Your view on Luke & Laura is exactly how I feel (and felt at the time) You just put it into words better.
I don't know about you, but when I was younger, I LOVED dating all the "frogs"!! The "bad boys". Though I never married them!!
Always wanted Laura with Scott. Sadly, I have heard no talk of Scott so I doubt that is going to happen.
I was rather surprised to see Alexis in 2 scenes on Friday. If they have decided to give her more time, I will be a happy girl! Party She is one of a handful of talented actors on the show.
As far as Jake dying. I was shocked at that spoiler and did call a friend last night and she heard nothing. She just advised me to be leary of rumors right now. I hope and pray that Jake doesn't die. I will shoot Davie Elton John if that happens! I am thinking Sam's baby doesn't happen, or she lose's it, thus leaving Jason & Sam raising Jake. I never want to see a child die. Even if it is only a story!
Getting back to GF, I did hear around X-Mas time she was coming back in the spring. Even her husband noted it on his website. Since I have heard nothing. So I am clueless with what is going on with that.
All I am asking for is less and less Brenduh time, and I think I am going to get it for awhile. Big smile

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JAQ- I can totally see your point about Laura outgrowing Luke. I agree that Laura outgrew the relationship as far as she outgrew the need for adventure and wanted to settle down in a stable home and live a family life and that has never been Luke. I believe the writers have used that as the reasoning as to WHY Laura and Luke aren't together. But I still believe that Laura always has been and always will be the love of Luke's life. I did like Laura with Scotty as well and always felt sorry for Scotty that he kept losing out to Luke because Scotty loves Laura dearly.

First I felt sorry for Scotty too. I always like the "underdog". And I think Scott is a hoot.
However, I must disagree with you about Luke always loving Laura. If he did always love her, and the writers wanted us to believe that, he would be with her. He has chosen Tracey. Tracey, though very rich Cash in comparision to Laura, is as adventurous as he is. People say "Opposites attract". BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
Actually what scares me, is, that Laura comes back in the Spring only to "ride off" with Luke. (Luke's retirment) So many Luke & Laura fans would love that. IMO they should throw him in jail as an ending, but that isn't a very popular vote!! lol I do not want to see her come back only to reconsile with him. I don't believe they love each other. AND...in any relationship, people change. People grow. You need to work TOGETHER to be with someone forever. Luke & Laura don't have that. Been apart too long. Put the fork in the meat, they are done!

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YES the boys need to stay together. IF Lucky never adopted Cam, I would say Jason has just as much say so if he wants Jake with him.
The 2 of them will work it out. I don't forsee that being a storyline. Do you? (As to who gets custody?)
If anyone asked me, I would go with Jason in a heartbeat. First thing I would do is get rid of Brenduh and those pink pillows............

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I readily admit I am looking at this as a sam fan, but if jason takes jake and lucky takes cam and aiden because Liz is at shadybrooke and then Sam's bio kid doesnt happen, that basically turns her into a place holder. Jason would be asking her to get attached to a child and raise a child that could then be taken away from her the second liz got well. As a Sam fan I have ZERO interest in a set up that is just begging to have her heart broken all over again. If she gets a child of her own and then Lucky and Jason work out some arrangement that allows JaSam to have some sort of visitation with Jake, that would be okay with me. I dont want to see Jake die at all, but again if if my only choice is between jaSam raising Jake temporarily with no child of their own or Jake dying and Sam getting her miracle child, I want my girl to get some IMHO well deserved and often illusive happiness.

I want lucky to have primary custody because going to jasons would be too much upheaval all at once. I would rather see Lush move in to Liz's house and raise the children their, so that their lives go on as close to the same as they would have had Liz not gone crazy or left town or whatever, assuming the boys dont exit with her.

The only place I have seen the rumor about jake was at Daytime Dish. The suggestion was that Liz does something, like she doesnt close the door and jake runs out into the street - which is similar to how brooke english lost her child on amc years ago - drunk driver coming down the street hit the child when the woman brooke's ex- husband was seeing took her eyes off the girl and she wandered outside into the street.

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OMG this cant be true...someone on dd is suggesting that Liz goes to get the paternity results in the mail and leaves the door open, Jake wanders and the person that hits him with the car is robin who is rushing to prove something re: Lisa. OMG this CANT be true.

Now part of it was taken down re: robin and someone said its siobhan that hits him while she is fleeing the balkin.

I think the robin one sounds more real only because siobhan couldnt come back from that even as an accident and I think its strange that some of the robin stuff was taken down. HMMM

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I am glad no babies are dying so good there but as far as Liz going crazy like Laura...at least she isn't dying. I'm not sure as an LL2 fan if I'll watch but I'll be happy if she's alive and her sons are with Lucky.

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Oh NO!! Please don't let this story be real. I am going to bounce around today and see what I can find out.
I know we (I) have been wanting reality on this show for so long, so I shouldn't complain......I guess I wanted only GOOD REALITY??
The BJ story was so popular. I can see them redoing that storyline. What else could send Liz or any mother to a looney bin if losing a child due to an accident you caused?? Sad

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EricasEvilTwin wrote:
OMG this cant be true...someone on dd is suggesting that Liz goes to get the paternity results in the mail and leaves the door open, Jake wanders and the person that hits him with the car is robin who is rushing to prove something re: Lisa. OMG this CANT be true.HMMM

Are there May sweeps? I know there is November & February. I am guessing there IS a May sweep. From what I read on some sites, and this is my interpetation only, is that 1) RH tapes well into March still. Which would mean she would be a part of "sweeps". May sweeps. 2) Robin needs an attorney. Something she may have done that effects the lives of some GH staff. This story starts after Feb sweeps. Could Liz being absent minded and something happens to one of the kids?
I read this much off of GH Happenings Rumorville. No mention of any child be killed. However, now I am thinking.......Hmmmm too!

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I really hope the Jake getting hit by a car rumors are not true. However, I can see something like that tipping Liz back over the edge. That would send any mother to the loony bin.

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Oh wow, I really hope the Jake thing isn't true. The only good thing to come of it would be a reel for Becky in regards to next year's Daytime Emmy awards, like Kristian Alfonzo when Bo and Hope's son Zack was killed on DOOL by, surprise, a hit and run driver who turned out to be his half sister, Chelsea. (Boy, did I shed some tears during that storyline.)

Speaking from a creative standpoint, I know the story itself would be absolutely riveting and powerful, if done right. And would no doubt send Liz to the looney bin, as someone mentioned. It would provide great story for Monica and Jason, if he finally came to tell her the truth once all was said and done. It would provide good material for Lucky. And as I said, I think Becky would turn out a powerhouse performance and she could tell GH to kiss the Emmy on her ass as she walked off stage. (Okay, okay, we all know she's too classy a gal to say something like that, aloud anyway, so I'll say it to the HPIC's for her! Big smile )

Aside from all of that, I am sick and tired of GH in particular putting children through the ringer. They either kill them before they can be born--during childbirth--or kill them during childhood and most of the time, if not always, the deaths are used as nothing more than plot points to push the story forward, as opposed to showing some sort of awareness. When Chelsea killed Zack, she was texting and driving. That was a plot that served a purpose, teaching about the dangers of doing such a thing--which is quite obviously stupid. If they would only be killing Jake to get rid of Liz, I cannot support that. Just like Kristina's friend who died from a head injury, that's a real life thing that has happened, and they brought no awareness to it whatsoever. I don't expect soaps to teach me how to live my life, but I do expect them to provide some sort of realism when they're dealing with realistic matters of the heart.

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I really hope the Jake getting hit by a car rumors are not true. However, I can see something like that tipping Liz back over the edge. That would send any mother to the loony bin.

I hope it isn't true either. Please don't let it be true!
But they are going to the edge now with s/l. First Michael..

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I won't get into all the spoilers I read, just the one about RH.

"Liz's exit will be open ended so she could return in the future."
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while i'm fine with liz leaving, i prefer no dead kids be left in her wake. loonytown is fine with me, but if the writers were kinder, they could go a much happier route. someone - audrey, sarah, steve, lucky, nik, jason, or sam even - could have submitted some liz's art work to a conservatory or university. liz sees this as one last shot at her dream of being an artist and liz decides to pursue it. steve/jason/sam/lucky/siobhan/nik & brooklyn all move into the brownstone to raise the boys together. - no one dies, liz can come back for visits, and she gets her happy ending. all the guys start a touring band to support the boys and leave all shady/time consuming jobs behind. oh to dream...

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I am more than fine with her character leaving. I do not want to see a child die as part of the storyline though.
I haven't read that anywhere...yet.
They put her in Shadybrook and leave it open for her return. If she even wants to return. I believe she is supporting her family and will take an offer if one from another show is presented to her.
She will be on our screens until May.

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May? When is her last day of taping?

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End of March.
I just got a mouthful of spoilers. I believe them too.
Emailed Perkie to see if I can post. Will get back to you. (If you want to know)

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She was on this week again.

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Were you the one who wanted an update on spoilers? I am sorry, still new to the board.

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I know I’m eager to know more spoilers. The more you can get on this whole thing, JAQ, the better. Can’t help myself! Though I am quite scared to hear what might happen next. Puzzled I just don't want anymore children to be sacrificed on this show.

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I couldn't remember who I promised to tell them to. Thanks for reminding me.
First I am going to send you to a link.
Then come back and let me know what you want to know.
I may have to have you email me at home.
I am sure Regan is on it.......

http://generalhospital.about.com/b/

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Why is it that the actresses are definitely on there way out but the actors are on the fence. This is why I'm through with GH unless they get it together, which I doubt.

Thanx JAQ for the info.

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I have decided, that we pretty much know now Molly or Jake dies. When a soap opera stoops so low to kill a child to gain ratings, I am done with the show.

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My bet is still on Jake. I think he is sick and that is how it comes out that he is Jason's. He dies and Liz goes loony. I HATE this!

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See, I’m thinking the same thing about Jake, which will DEFINITELY send Liz over the edge and to the loony bin. What else could it be if this whole thing is “open ended” and she leaves her other children behind??? She’s already teetering with this Nik/Brooke crap. And Nik is constantly taking Brooke’s side on things lately. In what WORLD would that occur? This man would take the side of a girl who’s a known manipulator over his friends? First Robin and Lisa, now, Liz and Brooke??? And this show has a tendency to make you start hating the victim which has ALWAYS pissed me off. The goons get off easy and the smart people are made to look like dumb craze-bombs. They made Robin Freaking Scorpio look foolish for months in regards to Lisa/Patrick, and now they’re doing the same with Liz in regards to Nik/Brooke. But she doesn't even get a chance at redemption. I mean, seriously, WTF to the n'th power?

Not to mention, as JAQ said, using the death of a child just to bring in ratings and remove a character, ANY character, from the canvas is sick. There’s no underlying message here, nothing about how this or that can be prevented if we take this or that precaution if/when Jake dies. Like I said before, when DOOL killed off Bo and Hope’s son, the underlying message was the negative side of texting and driving, in that doing so can cause careless death. No, GH is all about plot driven crap. And I'll be hella pissed if Brandon/Johnny is gone while people like Siobhan continue to take up screentime. I liked her fine before she was put on contract. Now she's on every freaking day and I'm. Just. Over. It. Stare

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