See now when I saw the Liz slipping money rumor it was to a lab tech and it took that to mean that either she wants to ensure that the paternity comes back Lucky and is paying him upfront or she is paying him because she faked the test with Jake. I said at the time that I thought it was odd that we never saw anyone read the paternity tests for jake except Liz and then she cried she could just as easily been crying because the paperwork said lucky and she wanted Jason as it could be that she knew jason being the father could end her marriage. If Jake isnt Jasons, I wonder how Jason would react - all that time longing for a son that isnt his AND out 5 mil to boot.

Hi Evangeline..welcome. I too am new. Gee where did you find that screen name?? lol

I am surprised by that rumor about Aiden. I would have thought she leaves with Jason not knowing, and in 5 years Aiden comes back a teen. I am hardly ever right though. How can she pay anyone off for anything? Isn't she suppose to be broke??
Not a fan of Liz. Never was. When Lucky ripped her apart last year, I couldn't help but decide to give her a 2nd chance when she came back from maternity leave. She hasn't changed.

I seriously hope the writers don't crap on Liz like that before she leaves. Because after all that time, Jake should remain Jason's and Liz should just find out Aiden is Lucky's. Just let Liz leave in peace.

Y&R also did something like that with Nick where he was the only one that saw his daughter Summer's results. And to this day she is like 7 and everyone wants Jack to be Summer's dad but I think its too late.

Let Lucky have a son for at least a month before RH is gone let's not rehash anymore stories and switch anymore babies. Plus, Jake looks too much like Jason not to be his.

With the outcry RH departure has caused, the writers would have to be really stupid to write her off in a negative way or even kill her. I see her leaving to go live with her sister. I am naive about life though.........
I also posted somewhere else, (and again, I am NOT a fan)that it wouldn't surprise me with this amount of outcry and petitions going around that they ask her to stay. There are stories to be written that don't involve her sneakiness, lying, troubling making baby making ways. Change the character. Give her a challenging storyline besides stealing someones man and get pregnant.
I am not counting her out yet. JMO

Hi, it's nice to meet you too, love your name by the way. Lol, yeah that Evangeline and Cristian was my fave.

Do you mean Aiden coming back as a teen or Jake? Because I never doubted Jake was Jason's because he looks so much like him. But hell I'm just as surprised as you are about Liz paying someone off because according to the writers she lost everything. The writers seriously have the shortest memory span known to man.

To these writers Liz was a prop to get JJ back and to dangle the possiblity of an LL2 reunion. Now that they have JJ they have no use for RH and no need to change her b/c I honestly believe they wanted to ship her off to Spooner island but forgot about Brooklynn and dumped that S/L. B/c old Liz was always snarky but she wasn't loose she was always searching for love and never satisfied but she realized she had it with Lucky. Lucky was a better option but these writers don't want that, they don't want a love story at all. They probably don't know how to write one.

Ugh, I'm rambling, rambling done.

Lucky and Jason both have the same coloring except for the eyes and laura's eyes were blue, so I am not worried about the looks issue. My only thought is if they want to tarnish liz, then changing results would be a good way to do it. I wonder if its aiden how she is going to get a test sample to compare his results to? I am still super stuck on how they are goign to work things with the liz and the kids unless she dies. If she leaves with them, are they going to write lucky visiting them every few weeks? And then jason has his baby with Sam, does he not want to also visit Jake?? It makes them deadbeats if not and the men on this show never fair worse than the women in things like this. Conversely, why on earth would she leave without them unless she does something so horrible that diane advises her that she could never win custody if lucky challenged her and she decides not to put them through a custody battle. Even then I have to wonder how bad something would have to be to have zero chance because Cam isnt legally lucky's and she could simply out jake as Jasons.

Yeah if the writers kill her off I really believe ratings will fall. It would really show the amount of disrespect they have for the show and its history. I also doubt they'll bring RH back because that would show that their wrong and Frons and Guza do not believe there wrong with any of the decisions they made. Hey just look at the ratings.

Guza doesn't want anything positive, I don't know any women on the show that haven't been through the ringer under Guza's pen. I doubt they would bring RH back and then write for her. I think it would all just be too much.

Yeah this just proves this is just a bad decision b/c everyone looks bad in the end. If Liz dies and they spread out her kids to their fathers that looks like their playing into Sam and the baby s/l. If they have Liz do something and abandon her kids, it dirties Liz up and make her look completely out of character. If Liz leaves with the kids, Lucky is not going to be able to see Aiden grow up and the writers are going to have to constantly say that Lucky has visited them or taken them somewhere. If Jason has a baby with Sam then the writers are going to have to say that Jason is now having regular visits with Jake. The whole situation can really be avoided if they would just write for BH.

Really? I liked John and her together the best. I was never a fav of Chris.
You do know she is on a primetime show now don't you??
I apologize. Getting tired. I meant Jake will come back as a teen.
And honestly, how often do we really see kids on soaps? Liz will take them with her.
Or......I could live with Jason as his Nanny!!!!

Thats why my mind went to Jake...if Jake is really Lucky's and she messed with the paternity results back then, it might make lucky wonder if she messed with them a second time, and thats how he finds out he is aidens father. If I'm lucky and she messed with them once, I am going to assume she is guilty the second time (even though the audience knows it was Helena). THAT would be a fairly rotten thing, plus breaking the trust fund and the affair, I think under those circumstances she wouldnt be able to retain primary custody compared to lucky. That keeps the kids together. Not sure though what would make her leave town, maybe she has a breakdown over losing custody of the kids and ends up in shadybrooke? Could also be a way to explain why Laura comes back.

I liked Vange & John until the I never loved her thing. That was a killer but Cris and Vange just had that spark to me.

It's okay, but yeah in a year or so teen Jake will be roaring into town on his harley. If they don't make Liz crazy she'll leave intact with kids...I just want Lucky to be able to spend as much time as possible with his first bio Son that he just learned of.

Hell, I would be Jase's nany too, to sneak some peeks at him.

Side note: Is anyone else a little ticked that Guza didn't have Liz name Aiden in some way similar to Lucky? She did with Cam and Jake.

I automatically thought that either Aiden would get sick and the paternity would come out or Aiden would begin to look similar to Lucky like blue eyes and dark brown curly hair and Liz would question this. Because Liz has greenish blue eyes and light brown hair. But with these writers the dirtier the better before they ship you off to unemployment. I just want Liz intact before she goes (hopefully off with Audrey and Sarah or something).

Also isn't Laura in paris in a facility? Are you saying you want her to come back and help lucky? Is she in her right mind though? Under this regime I wouldn't put it past them to make go crazy and kidnap Luke and have Tracy look like the love of his life. Not that I dislike Tracy and Luke but LnL are it for me.

I am hoping she leaves town and goes to her sisters. She leaves because there is nothing left for her in Pt Chuckles. Perhaps a new beginning with people who don't know or judge her??
As far as the boys go, I do believe Aiden's paternity will be revealed before she leaves. However, GH gives kids no air time. (laws?)So I really don't see the sense in keeping the kids behind with Lucky & Jason. Easier if they age the kids in 5 years and bring them back then. Like every other kid they do. JMO
As far as that is why they bring Laura back, good point.

I don't feel Liz will be paying off a lab tech to be sinister. I think she is paying off the tech so she can actually get the paternity test completed. Wouldn't she need a doctor's order? This is for Aidan. Not Jake. That's a whole other can of worms. LOL...

I hope she doesn't get killed off, but that she moves to California to live with Sarah.

Hold on rewind what primetime show is she on?

Ahanshew, if she goes to sarahs with the boys what does that make lucky? I just dont see how they do this without making someone look like the abandoned the kids...either lucky is letting her trot off with his sons a million miles away or he gets custody and she leaves instead of staying for visitation? This is going to be interesting to see how they pull this off.

That's why I am hoping for. To just let Liz leave in peace with her cute babies in tow.

She is an attorney of "The Good Wife." She doesn't work for the firm, but she works for a competitor. They show her periodically trying cases.

Aww, I have to watch that now. Thanx for the info!

I agree. It's also just too clean for a soap exit. Did Lucky legally adopt Cam? I can't remember. I think Jake's paternity will come in to question too (I hope). I wish I could find some spoilers. I'm dying here. LOL...

I have a possible Liz spoiler. Can I post the web site here??

I've seen it done before so I say go for it. Also sorry for not responding sooner, I was out all day running errands.

Jaq yes you can post here because the thread is marked as a spoiler. We just tried to keep spoilers clearly marked so people that want to remain spoiler free can remain so.

The one I am now seeing is that Jake is going to die as a result of Liz's decisions, but I know that started with DD and that site tends to be about 50-50.

Ohhh that isn't what I heard. OMG. Please no death to children!!! But on the other hand, if you want to read "into" my spoiler, it could be possible.
I read that Liz goes off to the SpencerBrooke. (Shadybrooke) Boys stay. I wonder........if something does happen to Jake and she "lose's it".
I thought they were leaving the door open for her return.

Don't worry about it, so was I.
I don't want Jake to die. I have my "signals" out right now. Will let you know. lol

Shadybrooke makes a lot more sense...as I have said before, there arent many ways to write her out that make sense because so many of the options would involve Lucky allowing her to leave with the boys or her leaving town and lucky keeping the boys. I cant imagine either parent abandoning those kids. If she cant HELP but be away from them, that makes more sense.

I am not a fan of RH. Her leaving has no inpact on me.
However, with the outcry of her firing has brought on, if she goes to Shadybrooke, something tells me RH will be back. Don't you??

I really HOPE that they write Liz off in a way that RH can come back but honestly I fear they won't. I say this because of everything I have read and heard saying that a higher up exec doesn't like the character and has wanted her gone. I just read on another site today that Guza is NOT to blame for RH being fired, that it was a "higher up" that wanted her gone.

As far as Laura, I thought she was sane now and was living in Paris in a house/apartment that Nik had gotten her? Is she still in a hospital? Last time I saw her she had returned to normal and was just leaving town.

Also read on another site that there are rumors that Brenda is supposed to go "boom" in a limo on her wedding day but that she survives unbeknowst to Sonny and it says did the Balkan pull a "bait and switch"? I'm really HOPING this doesn't mean Liz ends up in that limo!

As far as Laura goes, she is in Paris living in her own place. Which makes no sense. However I read she is coming back in the Spring. Not sure if its permanent or what.
As far as Brenduh going BOOM, yea I heard that too. Nice, we will have a little vacation from her!! lol

Yeah, I don't quite understand Laura being in Paris. Its makes ZERO sense to me that Luke would be on one side of the world married to someone else while Laura is alive and well on the other side of the world. As humorous as Tracy and Luke are, I've never bought it that he is IN LOVE with her as he is with Laura.

Brenda- she can leave for a while as far as I am concerned. I've said before that VM and Brenda were my all time fav. female soap actress and character, tied with Carly. But this time around, I'm just lukewarm to Brenda. I think the "memory" of Brenda, and the mystery of what she's doing and the characters remembering her and talking about her is better than her actually being onscreen the way she's been written this go around. BUT I also read on that same site that Brenda/Jax fans will be getting some interaction that will make them happy coming up. I'm all for that!