Roger Howarth Officially Returning?

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I hope Roger Howarth is coming back! Why should they have an imitation, when the real thing is available? Anyway, I heard they desperately want him back, so I say yes, it's just a matter of time. He is a NYer. Why move to CA?

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I don't think Roger Howarth will be back as Todd.

I think he'll come back as a character claiming to be Todd, and he'll have "irrefutable" proof that Trevor's Todd is actually Walker Laurence. "Walker" will be shunned, and "Todd" will take over his life. This story would obviously affect Marty, Blair, and maybe Tea.

But eventually I think it'll turn out Roger's character isn't Todd and that Trevor is still the real Todd.

Personally, I've come to love Trevor as Todd, but as long as he's still on the show, I wouldn't mind it if it turned out he was someone else...just as long as he retained the same personality.

Frankly, I'm willing to pay cash money to see Susan Haskell and Roger Howarth share scenes again.

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AlistairCrane wrote:
....just as long as he retained the same personality.

That would be my point: That personality is not Todd's! RH created Todd, therefore that is Todd's personality and demeanor. Do I think an Emmy winner with the buzz this guy is creating is going to take back seat to an imitation? Ahhh, no. LOL

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Trevor is not an imitation. He's what Todd would have evolved into if RH had stayed in the role.

I like both actors, and it looks like TSJ isn't in danger of leaving, so I'm sure the story will be thrilling no matter what.

Knowing OLTL, RH will be the fake Todd and they will put him in a relationship with Marty since he only "looks" like the man who raped her.

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Roger Howarth was really good as Todd. He was one of my favorite characters on the show and in all of daytime. HOWEVER, Trevor St. John as Todd is my FAVORITE character on the show and in ALL of daytime! Roger was good, but Trevor is amazing day in and day out. I am not completely averse to Roger coming back to the show, but I just don't see any reason for it. He left of his own will because he hated playing Todd, a rapist who the fans still loved.

Bringing him back because the show he was on after he left (and was not all that spectacular on) got canceled, when the character he played has been successfully been replaced (in my opinion) by a superior actor would bother me. As far as ratings go, if Vanessa Marcil can return and have no positive affect on the ratings (albeit probably due to the crappy writing), then why why would they expect RH to do anything ratings wise? It is about the story, and I think bringing Lindsay back on a good story would do more for ratings and be cheaper than bringing back Roger.

Having said that, if he comes back and is NOT Todd Manning, then all I care about is if there is a good story surrounding whatever character he plays.

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Watchingallday, Roger did not have a problem with playing a rapist. He had a problem with tptb turning the character into a romantic lead. Trevor is a good actor, but to me he doesn't play the character as he should. He comes off as too hollow to me. He doesn't convey that inner struggle or complexity the way Roger did. But to each his own. You like TSJ's Todd, and for me there is only one Todd... and that is RH.

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Trevor St. John is a GREAT actor who has carved out his own niche on OLTL. He doesn't need to follow in Roger Howarth's footsteps or try to emulate him. Trevor proved himself a LONG time ago as long as I'm concerned. To each his or her own, but I don't necessarily want to see Roger return to the show as Todd. When you leave a show, you have to accept the fact that the show MUST go on. And I hate actors who leave their shows of their OWN accord and then come back years later to "reclaim what's theirs," causing good actors to get thrown out in the cold. I wish Roger the best of luck, and I will welcome him on OLTL as a new character, but Trevor is Todd for me now.

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miamisnoopi305, sorry, trying not to be too long winded, I skimped on explaining why he left. When I said he was uncomfortable playing a rapist we liked, I meant as a romantic lead. Specifically I believe he hated that someone yelled out "rape me Todd." I just don't see how he could return to that, because if he didn't like being "a" romantic lead when he left, Todd is now "the" romantic lead as well as the general lead of the show. But I do respect your RH love and can agree to disagree. I can only get behind originals returning (especially if they left of their own will) if 1)the replacement is not a good actor who is of equal or greater skill and has made the role their own, or 2)if the replacement also leaves of their own will-firing a perfectly good actor to bring back someone who couldn't make it elsewhere bothers me! Example Greg Vaughan being tossed aside b/c Johnathan Jackson never made it mainstream. There was NO ratings boost, and only 1 scene where JJ gave a performance that I will admit GV may not have done as well.

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We all have our faves, I am just glad TPTB know who they have to get back on the show.

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I understand what you're saying watchingallday. I thought it was horrible how abc treated Sabine Sigh and Greg Vaughn. While I prefer RH as Todd, I hope you don't interpret that as me wanting them to boot TSJ out the door. It's actually the opposite. In the ideal world, I would like OLTL to keep both actors. According to the article listed, so seems to be the case. It's just that I believe OLTL is in a position were the saying "It can't hurt to try" applies to the sudser in every way possible. I think OLTL needs to be proactive and at least attempt to make moves to generate buzz. To not do so, imo, would be the equivalent to accepting cancellation. I think bringing RH and KZ back to the show are good moves. The two main orbits of the show revolve around Viki and Todd. KZ stirs some excitement in Viki's orbit, and so does RH in Todd's (TSJ's) orbit. This might finally put the Fords on the backburner, even though they should be gone all together (imo). I hope you understand my position a little bit more. I may prefer RH as Todd, but it's not a deal breaker if he's not. Furthermore, by no means would I condone them tossing TSJ aside after him giving them 7 years. But I do think it's a good move to try and get back RH, for any role. The show needs some buzz, some more lead men, and his return might provide for an interesting/complex storyline involving Todd (or whoever TSJ's character turns out to be). I agree with you, I don't think any popular actor returns will help abc. ABC soaps have a bigger problem than character rosters, imo, and tptb keeps associating the return of a popular actor with a turnaround. We all know that no soap actor is turning around any soap. Finally, should Roger come back (in whatever role), I hope you can accept him and not view it as a bad move (remeber TSJ isn't going anywhere!). Btw, I highly respect your opinions and fervor for TSJ (I've been in this position in other soaps, so I know how it can be), and I hope my long post didn't bore you.

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Yeah, Sabine Singh's UNCEREMONIOUS booting off of AMC, as well as being PERMANENTLY labeled "The chick who WASN'T Greenlee," was the cruelest piece of marketing that I have seen in my many years of watching soaps. You'd have thunk that she peed in Brian Frons' cornflakes or something!!! They did her dirty, but in all honestly, she NEVER was Greenlee to me. Unfortunate situation of right actress, wrong role.

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I just read a blog on this topic that perfectly describes how I feel on this subject. Eye on soaps, Dare I Dream It?

To paraphrase: I have never accepted TSJ as Todd and lately because of RC's writing and TSJ's acting choices I now hate the character of Todd. TSJ was fine as Walker, I just do not like the way he plays Todd.

She goes on to give the reasons why SON is more believable in this matter than CH over at SOD. They have misled storylines before on purpose, such as TSJ's execution. So what that CH gave this information. LOL The showing of the pix of RH and Tea saying TSJ is not Todd. ABC is not denying the rumor, but saying no comment. RH lives in NYC. And ATWT has been cancelled.

Toss in that Jamey (whom I believe) said RH was in talks with OLTL, I believe SON.