General Hospital: Perkie's Observations


The performer of the day has got to be Aaron Refvem (Morgan). He started in on Carly about what’s wrong with their family, asked why it keeps falling apart, why everyone quits, and when he started crying, it just broke my heart. Then he said the line about Jax being with his real child and I felt even worse. Michael doesn’t like Jax, so he won’t care if Jax breaks up with Carly. Jocelyn is too young to know what’s going on, but Morgan is stuck in the middle. He's Sonny’s son, but he has been raised primarily by Jax and we can see they have a pretty strong relationship.

I loved the look of guilt on Lante’s faces as they got caught by Steven. I love that a lot of Dante’s lines to Lulu seem as though they’re ad-libbed by Dominic Zamprogna and that Julie Marie Berman seems to genuinely laugh a lot. I loved the look of vulnerability on Dante’s face when he asked Lulu if she was coming back the next day.

I hated Sonny following Lulu home to try and get her to see his side of things. Gee, Lulu why won’t you see that Sonny is really a good man who totally didn’t mean to shoot your boyfriend point blank in the chest. Douchebag. I loved that she told him that Dante is a grown man and not some bouncing baby that he can manipulate.

I’m sort of glad that Olivia is trying to make up with Dante, but at the same time, I think she’s talking out of both sides of her mouth. When Sonny came back in and asked Dante if he was going to pursue him once he’s working for Mac, Dante basically said “ you betcha” and Olivia got this look on her face, like, “how dare he”. She just doesn’t get it.

As happy as I am for Rebecca Herbst with this pregnancy, I hate that they’ve written it into the story and I just can’t get into it. Both Nik and Lucky are behaving like they want to stake their claim on her and the baby and it’s creeping me out. However, Liz did give me the unintentionally funny line of the day:

Liz: “Pregnant? Me?”

Well, sure. Other than Sonny, you’re the most fertile person in this town!

I loved Mac and Alexis, although I wish they wouldn’t have been interrupted.

I’m not a fan of JaSam’s, but I will admit that they had moments of cuteness today and Molly wasn’t overly annoying in her intentions. They lost some of their cuteness though when he was reading from the gun magazine. That’s not cute, considering what he does for a living.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED THE LULU & DANTE SCENES !!! Everytime he looks at her its like he wants to eat her up they are soooo hot

Hatiing the Liz storyline I hope she loses the baby I'm sorry but Liz doesn't need another baby and this storyline makes no sense at all 

Molly is the only reason why I can tolerate JaSpam she is soooooooooooo cute

I felt bad for Morgan that child is such a great actor

I hope Jax sticks too his guns and keep Joselyn away from Carly until she realizes that Sonnys life is no good ( I won't hold my breath on that happening)

Loooooved Mac & Alexis , I hope here representing Sonny won"t come between them I want too see more of  these twwo together.

END OF RANT....................LOL

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I loved today's episode. It is odd to me that I am more excited to Watch GH then OLTL. I guess they are learning.

Perkie I agreed with most of your observations, but I found the JaSam stuff funny. I mean, reading guns and ammo out loud to Sam was a very inventive way for Jason to comply with Molly's idea. I think it was his way of making a joke.

I really like Sonny, except the fact that he doesnt take responsibility for what he does. If he did that, he would not be as hated, but he passes blame around, like a 12 year old.

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LIASONADDICT wrote:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED THE LULU & DANTE SCENES !!! Everytime he looks at her its like he wants to eat her up they are soooo hot

YES this is exactly what I was thinking today too, it's so fricken hot

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Perkie...Today was the first day that I was actually convinced that Liz is having a breakdown.  She just looked so...out of it while she was sitting on that ledge, and this is the first scene of hers for in a LONG time that I didn't feel like she was just being dramatic for the manipulative effect.

Liasonaddict...Long time no see!  Smile

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Liasonaddict...Long time no see!  Smile

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LOL Samrocks !!!!!!!!!!  Yes I have been M.I.A., Im back now because they have been doing my girl Liz dirty and GH is getting better

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Perkie - "I'm sort of glad that Olivia is trying to make up with Dante, but at the same time, I think she’s talking out of both sides of her mouth. When Sonny came back in and asked Dante if he was going to pursue him once he’s working for Mac, Dante basically said “ you betcha” and Olivia got this look on her face, like, “how dare he”. She just doesn’t get it."

Perkie that isn't how I saw the look on Olivia's face.  I thought she looked stunned and scared, like OH MY GOD!!! 

LOVED the Lulu and Dante scenes!  I thought they were both so cute blushing as Steve was lecturing them.  They sizzle together and are fast becoming my favorite couple!  There is real joy when these two smile at each other!  Loved what Dante had to say to Sonny but I'm wondering how he'll feel when he learns Michael is the one who actually killed Claudia and why.  

Loved the JaSam scenes too!  Pink champagne, pink pillows, pink roses, I just loved it.  Of course my favorite color is pink so I'm biased!  LOL  I thought Jason's expressions while sampling chocolate covered strawberries and champagne were so cute.  Loved the girls and how much the three of them really seem like sisters.  And I love how Jason talks to all the children.  Loved them all catching Mac and Alexis necking.  Loved Kristina calling Mac "smoking hot".  Love Mac and Alexis together and can't wait to see more of them!  And I thought it was cute that Jason was reading to Sam from a firearms magazine as if it was poetry.  To him it is and at least he made an effort to follow all of Molly's instructions.  Very cute and very sexy!  I did notice that Alexis thought the girls were at a school Valentine's activity but didn't say anything when it was Sam and Jason that brought them home.

Morgan made my heart ache.  He's caught in the middle and he's absolutely right about everything.  He may be the glue to pull these two stubborn adults? back together.  And Aaron Refvem is an awesome young actor!  As I've been saying GH has struck gold with these four actors.  So young and so incredibly talented! 

Did Sonny really think Lulu would actually help him win over Dante?  Delusional!

I'm lost for words when it comes to Liz.  Hopefully she can get the help she really needs at Shadybrook if they can keep Helena away from her.  I'm not sure if I care who's baby it is but I'm hoping they do enough to make me care eventually.  I don't want Lucky to waste his time on her if it isn't his baby.  He deserves better!!!

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Forgot to say that I also liked Olivia and Dante's talk.

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Perkie, that look on Olivia's face at the end of the show w/ Sonny and Dante wasn't a "how dare you son".. it was an "oh-holy f*ck, what is about to happen here"!

GH is still mob centric, so while there are aspects of improvement, the show overall still has a long way to go. The kids on this show tend to impress me more than the adult story lines. Especially with Sonny and Carlys kids now paying the price for who their father is and the connections they all have.

I'm not sure I'm liking or buying the Liz breakdown thingy, I'm certainly not buying the lack of rage Lucky seems to be missing with Nicholas!

Jason reading a gun mag. and Sam getting all hot over him talking about various kinds of guns was just crap, total, roll my eyes, crap! (Dear Steve Burton, please stop signing your contracts!)

But again, this is General Mobspital, not the soap I used to respect and enjoy, that soap got canceled around 2001 when the Sonny-Jason hour took over and Guza went on a slice and dice escapade!

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I'm certainly not buying the lack of rage Lucky seems to be missing with Nicholas!

 

I'm not buying it either.  That's what's making this storyline suck. I wanted to see classic Lucky v Nik. I wanted to see their relationship go back to how it was when they first met. I want to see the anger and the hurt. I want to see them going at it. I want to see classic Lucky/Nik and I'm not seeing any of that.  Lucky has been calling Liz a whore to anyone who would listen but he hasn't said a word to Nik.  Lucky treats Nik like Nik wore his favorite shirt and he pissed about that.

I am hating this storyline. I really wish Guza would have chosen not to write it in. How the freak someone like Liz, fertile as she is, could go 3 mos and not know she's pregnant is not believable. 

I will admit though I LOVED those scenes with her on the roof and Lucky reaching out to her. I just loved that. 

I feel for Morgan also. He is Sonny's son but the reason Morgan is so lovable, has good manners and knows the cops are the good guys is because he was raised by Jax and Carly. I really hope TIIC don't try to make Jax look like the evil guy by not having him keep his relationship with Morgan.  I really want to see Jax try is best to stay a father figure to Jax. 

I HATE Olivia!!! How that trick could even stand next to Sonny is outrageous. Olivia should view Sonny just like Claudia. Claudia didn't mean to get Michael shot but she was still the villian for that.  Well Sonny didn't mean to shoot his son but he still shot him because he was a cop.  Olivia should hate Sonny with a passion.  Instead she did look like she was hurt Dante still wanted to take down Sonny.  I hate this woman. I can't see how Olivia could even have romantic feelings for a man who almost killed her son.  I hate her.

I hated that we didn't actually see Alexis/Mac get it on.  They are so cute and Mac is too sexy to be wasted. I want to see shirts off! JaSam annoyed me as usual.

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I agree with Perkie about Olivia's look at the end. it to me was like she thought she would have to step in and get involved by stopping her son or stopping Sonny. But it will be all Olivia doing her "thang"

I liked Alexis and Mac. He still is hot and miss the sexy Mac hidden behind the badge.

I loved the Firearms Magazine that Jason was "reading" for Sam. I loved Jason giving her the chocolate first and then taking his bite. Steve Burton said at his event this past weekend that he adds some personal touches to some of the scenes (and he didn't tell Kelly what he was going to do just told the director so they could get the shot right (he was talking about the pink tie and tieing it around Sams neck because he didn't know if he could tie it backwards to him but right side to Sam, during the non Spin/Maxie wedding) so I wonder if he added to these scenes because he told the fans that they would love the Valentine scenes.  So I'll give him the kudos for that.

I agree that these four kids are a great "catch" for GH as I am partial to Morgan. 

I feel Liz is working it and Yes Liz is a true artist as I feel it is fake and an act and I do not feel she was going to 'jump" but if she thought it then it was becaue she was caught when she was told she was pregnant and she thinks she won't get Lucky back now.  No one should crack under this kind of "pressure" oh the horror she was called out on her lying and screwing. So lets end it all, I am so evil, no what did she tell Jason "she was so bad" that was it, so lets kill ourself.  Nope she is going fishing and reeling Lucky in. He is the big sucker (fish) she threw the bait at.

This part is not Puffery: WTH she was going to leave two kids without a mother and take the innocent one with her.

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Okay just partially through....just a thought.....

has Elizabeth had SOOO many wtd/unplanned pregnancies at this point that when she is admitted to the Hospital the first person they call is an OB-GYN doc.  Sorry but that just cracks me up.

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I hope this doesn't offend anyone or start an argument (rather than a debate) but...

Morgan's reaction to (potentially) losing Jax gave me more clarity with respect to the Lucky/Cake relationship.  Clearly, Morgan recognizes that Sonny is his father, but he has developed a strong, loving bond with Jax, so even though Jax is technically not his father, once Jax made those vows to Carly, he also implicitly agreed to be a father (or at least a father FIGURE to Michael and Morgan).  It doesn't matter that in today's society divorces occur as often as oil changes; a child - even a smart one like Morgan or Molly is incapable of truly grasping why someone would suddenly cut off all contact.

Now, I still don't believe that Lucky was insinuating that he was cutting Cake out of his life in addition to Liz; rather, I think he was trying to tell Jason that he may not be able to pull himself together, and he was only telling Liz that she can't use the boys as a way to manipulate him.

If, however, Lucky DOES decide that he doesn't want to have a relationship with Liz OR the boys, then I would be pretty disappointed in him.  Children may not necessarily understand biology, but they DO know that the man who cares for them, spends time for them, and provides for them is their father.

So even though Cameron and Jake are technically unrelated to Lucky, he went into the relationship with his eyes wide open, and made a CONSCIOUS decision to be their father.  Yes, Jake was a lie for a long time, but once the truth was out, he agreed to take responsibility.

(Sorry for the long post. )

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EET... I didn't even trip that the first doctor they called for Liz at GH was Kelly Lee.  It figures, though.  I know this pregnancy story happened cuz BH is pregnant in real life, and that's great.  But I can definitely use this as ammo to further fan the flames of my burning hatred for Liz.  Ugh, what a tramp.  Sick, sick, sick.  Why, oh why is she not using protection if she insists on throwing it around all over PC?  She knows she's the female Sonny and can basically get pregnant just by THINKING about sex.  PLUS, she's getting it on with 2 brothers and she's not using protection???!!!  That's yet another reason why I know that chick is nuts.  Oh, and I agree with Perkie and whoever else said Lucky seems to like that Liz needs him to rescue her.  I saw it glaring at me during this episode.  I think that's why he can be around Nik without killing him right now... because he's trying to be strong for Liz and be her rock.  I think it's definitely unhealthy, but I know a lot of men that are like that.  They just feel good knowing their woman needs them.  Plus, Liz is all about finding a man to take care of her and her children with varying family trees.  That's why she was all over Jason for so long.  Things went bad with her and Lucky and she became obsessed with Jason and wanting him to solve all her problems for her.  It also explains how she thought, in her delusional mind, that Jason would just swoop in, become a father to Cam, husband to her, and read bedtime stories to the kids at night before tucking them in.  Lucky needs to feel needed and Liz feeds that part of him because she's pretty helpless and incapable of taking care of herself and her kids on her own.

I just love Morgan's relationship with Jax.  You can totally see Morgan's love for Sonny, which is unconditional, but Jax raised him, and he's loyal to Jax too.  Carly is really pissing me off with her attitude right now.  Although, Jax is being a douche too, so they both kind of deserve what they're getting right now.  These two drive me nuts when they are fighting, but I really do like when they try to bluff each other and play cat and mouse.  They are too cute.  I just love my CarJax and hope they can work this out.

I have to admit, I was pissed when I realized that Molly and Kristina were still in Jason's PH, but I quickly got over it.  Their scene together was cute, and I like that they all caught Mac and Alexis.  Plus, we got plenty of romantic JaSam in this episode.  They are on fire together and I'm so glad TPTB realized their mistake and put them back together.  I totally swooned during the I love you's.  They both look so happy.  I've read some posts where people are talking all kinds of mess about Sam admitting she likes what Jason does for a living.  But, come on... Sam's been pretty honest about that from the beginning.  She's always lived on the other side of the law, just like Jason.  She doesn't really see him as a murderer, but someone who eliminates people who are threats to him and those he loves.  I'm not saying I agree, but it is what it is.  The way Jason lives turns Sam on.  It always has.  And the fact that she can kick ass and roll along side Jason turns him on too.  At least they're honest about it.  I'm in JaSam heaven lately.

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 JaSam are my favorite favorite GH couple and the episode showed why..
They were cute and So Hot funny and very sexy.......
From the start you could see the look Jason gave Sam , he really wanted her and him feeding Sam HOW HOTTTTTTTTTT??
And I didn't mind the girls interruption, they didn't think they will come so soon , and that all scene was so cute JaSam and the girls and Molly teaching  Jason who to be romantic , So cute
I loved how JaSam took the girls home and caught Alexis and Mac and the girls were so happy that all scene was so cute and it also have family vibe JaSam , Girls Alexis and Mac I LOVED IT
ANd when JaSam came back they started to talk and than when Sam asked Jason to read poetry he read her about guns and Sam was so on to it AMAZING Sexy
People this is JaSam they are not the normal  loving couple they are better they are real
AND THEY ARE THE BEST GH COUPLE ...

Ok lets talk about the rest was there rest?? LOL
Morgan broke my heart he family falls apart and I hate that he gets hurt BUT the main reason is Jax, he didn't care about Morgan and Michael that grow to love him , all he care was beating Sonny..
Morgan should go and yell at Jax not Carly...
I can't believe Carly let Jax keep Jocelyn she should have taken Jocelyn  home were she belongs.....
OK why why why do they needed to have RH pregnancy on the show that WTD Storyline with the same character is stupid...


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Morning everyone,

This is my second time posting, so hopefully you guys will get used to seeing me. I LOVE GH and have since my aunt watched it when I was 6 (Ouch long time ago). MY favorite couple is JaSame ( I so agree with GH Lover) they are hot and sexy, and FINALLY they got more then 2 minutes screen time. I'm so sick of them being interrupted. I loved that Jason was reading from the Ammo magazine, what could turn sam on more LOL

Morgan tore my heart out. Everyone is so right, the four kids (New bratpack) of 2010 Rock. I can't wait till they get older and have adult storylines.

Lante cracked me up looking guilty like school children, They are becoming tied for fav characters for JaSam. As long as I get a dose of one of the other I'll be good.

I love Carly, but I can't believe she was telling Morgan the "game" she plays, that if she plays hard to get Jax will come running. NOT a good thing to teach your young, vulerable son.

Anyhoo another great epi...keep em coming

see ya
Hux

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disillusioned GH fan wrote:
Perkie, that look on Olivia's face at the end of the show w/ Sonny and Dante wasn't a "how dare you son".. it was an "oh-holy f*ck, what is about to happen here"!

GH is still mob centric, so while there are aspects of improvement, the show overall still has a long way to go. The kids on this show tend to impress me more than the adult story lines. Especially with Sonny and Carlys kids now paying the price for who their father is and the connections they all have.

I'm not sure I'm liking or buying the Liz breakdown thingy, I'm certainly not buying the lack of rage Lucky seems to be missing with Nicholas!

Jason reading a gun mag. and Sam getting all hot over him talking about various kinds of guns was just crap, total, roll my eyes, crap! (Dear Steve Burton, please stop signing your contracts!)

But again, this is General Mobspital, not the soap I used to respect and enjoy, that soap got canceled around 2001 when the Sonny-Jason hour took over and Guza went on a slice and dice escapade!

I agree with everything you said. But i think the Jason & Sam scene seemed like they were TRYING to be daytime's version of Micheal & Fiona from Burn Notice. The only difference is Micheal & Fiona are played be good actors and Burn Notice has good writing!

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But i think the Jason & Sam scene seemed like they were TRYING to be daytime's version of Micheal & Fiona from Burn Notice. The only difference is Micheal & Fiona are played be good actors and Burn Notice has good writing!

 

Great point. Great.

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mayjadjor wrote: Liz feeds that part of him because she's pretty helpless and incapable of taking care of herself and her kids on her own.

Liz took care of Cam by herself after she had him. After she was with Lucky again they co-parented. When Lucky was hooked on drugs, Liz took care of Cam. You think Lucky was dropping him off to school, picking up his toys, bathing him, and putting him to bed? When? In between downing pills and srewing Maxie? After Liz and Lucky broke up the last time they were not living together for about 2 years. Jason didn't live with her either. She also didn't take any money from either of them (check the scenes when Lucky offered her child support for the boys and she turned it down). Jason did give her 5 mil for the boys after their last split - but that was put into a trust for the boys. She works full time at the hospital to pay her bills, and she is with her kids most of the time when not at work. Don't bring up the running off to have sex with Nik, because even a single mom is entitled to a dating/sex life. Her choice in partner was wrong, as was the cheating, but she is an adult who is entitled to a sex life if she wants one. Liz is the only mother on this show that I can think of that raises her children without a nanny's assistance. Even Robin used a nanny for a period of time (even after her recovery). You can say that Liz acted slutty, but how can you say she doesn't take care of her kids?

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i'm just hanging my head at the way Carly just filled Morgan in on the games her and Jax are playing. 

all of the parents on this show are whack. except for patrick and robin. and of course,  that is about to get screwed up too.

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 Rebecca, Steve and Kelly are amazing actors and their chemistry is out of this world , no Couple can compare to the  Chemistry that JaSam have, perfect Magic

I think JaSam are more M'r Miss Smith and that is what they are great they are not this all lovely boring  couple with ordinary Couple Things , this is why they are fan favorite because their idea of Love is riding on the bike or going to do some thing dangerous ....

I really hope that this year jaSam will be M'r and Miss Smith .... 

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js3557 - THANK YOU!! Thank you!! Thank You!!

You kept me from a long a$$ post by stating what I was feeling about Liz.  I love when people say she drops the kids off at Grams, well what is she suppose to do leave them on the street corner to fend for themselves.  The woman works, thus is in need of daycare.  She doesn't have the means to have an on-call nanny like Carly, Robin and Alexis.  I have always found that part of her to be very well written.

As for using protection, I have not watched yesterday's epi all the way thru so maybe she was using protection which explained her reaction.  Until I hear from her I am not jumping to conclusion.

Also, Dr. Lee might have been the first doctor there because upon admittance Liz would have had blood taken to make sure she didn't have any drugs in her.  I would think that is the reason Dr. Lee happened onto her case.

Also, I am sorry but I think the point of yesterday that most Liz haters are missing is would you really want three men to determine that you should be in Shadybrook.  I mean come on how much more stupid can this storyline get, I mean liz went through more with Ric and never needed to be institutionalized, but now I am suppose to believe she sudenly cannot live without Lucky and is earth shattered and in need Shadybrook time.  Writers please for the love of all that is holy..throw yourself off roofs.

I am with Bigdede & Disillusioned - lucky's non rage at Nik is killing this storyline for me

Rebecca - Loved the Burn Notice example.  Dead on with that one.

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has Elizabeth had SOOO many wtd/unplanned pregnancies at this point that when she is admitted to the Hospital the first person they call is an OB-GYN doc.  Sorry but that just cracks me up.

OMG... *cracking up*  I never thought of it that way!  Maybe they should have a trauma doc on call too, because you know the moment she gets behind the wheel while pregnant she'll end up in a ditch somewhere!

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In yesterday's episode, after Steven found out about Liz's pregnancy, he made a comment that they don't know who the father is.  Then he looked at Nik and asked if he'd even considered using protection.  Nik gave him this stupid look like, "Of course not."  That's the point.  What kind of woman in Liz's situation wouldn't be using protection while having sex with her fiance's brother?  And, yes, I agree that everybody is entitled to a sex life, but I do think it's pretty horrible to leave your child in the hospital, wake your sons out of a deep sleep in the middle of the night, or otherwise leave 2 young boys under 5 with your 80+ year old grandmother to row across the harbor and have sex with the dark prince.  Plus, it's not like Gram only watches those boys while Liz is at work.  Gram's got those kids more than Liz does.  My grandmother is younger than hers, and she couldn't handle those 2 boys on her own as often as Liz dumps them off on her.  Elizabeth is that kind of woman that can't be alone.  She always talks like she can be a strong, single mother, but she can't live without the constant attention of men.  Ric was obsessed with her and he was obviously crazy.  But even though she knew how nuts he was, she married him TWICE because she just loved that he loved her so much.  She liked that a man was totally insane for her, even if he was dangerous.  When she was "with" (chasing) Jason, she nearly went crazy too cuz he couldn't and wouldn't dedicate every waking hour to her.  He had other obligations and priorities and she just couldn't fathom it.  That's why I think her and Lucky just belong together.  Lucky is so in love with Elizabeth that he'll never get over it.  And he likes putting her up on a pedestal.  Liz would probably shrivel up and die if she didn't have that constant adoration from a man.  I think she's going crazy because this affair exposed who she really is to all of PC and she's worried her good rep is destroyed forever.  She's afraid she finally lost Lucky and that she will never again be worshiped by a man.

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Perkie wrote: I love that a lot of Dante’s lines to Lulu seem as though they’re ad-libbed by Dominic Zamprogna

I always thought that DZ did a lot of ad libbing as well and then yesterday I saw a  new video interview with LLC and Ronnie Marmo where DZ shows up at the end and he said that he never ad libs.  So kudos for DZ for making it seem so natural and also kudos to the writers.

Poor little Morgan broke my heart.  Jasam were sweet and I'm still not feeling sorry for Liz.

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Also, I am sorry but I think the point of yesterday that most Liz haters are missing is would you really want three men to determine that you should be in Shadybrook. 

Ravennite...That didn't bother me so much because her in CA if you attempt suicide then the hospital can put you on a mandatory 72-hour psychiatric hold (which usually turns into a 14-day hold).  Since Steven seems to be the treating physician, then I'm okay with him making the call, and yes, Nik and Lucky *seemed* to be butting in, but the loved ones of the patient are usually informed of the treatment since they can protest and suggest alternatives.  However, *if* either the patient or his/her loved ones protest, then the hospital just has to show cause in an informal hearing.  And I believe that hanging out on a ledge with tears streaming down your face and mumbling, "I'm sorry" over and over would qualify as cause to hold someone over.

As you know, I am TOTALLY a Liz hater, but this particular turn of events didn't bother me for the reasons stated above.

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Jason did give her 5 mil for the boys after their last split - but that was put into a trust for the boys.

Sorry, but this just cracked me up.  You can't say that she doesn't take money and then provide an example of when she took money.  And you can't say that "she only did it once" or something equally absurd when the "one" time she accepted cash there was 5 MILLION dollars involved.  Heck, I bet even a hooker might consider retiring after that.

And the fact that the money was for the boys might mean something if they were legally adults like Michael, and thus free to make their own decisions and use the money any way they liked.  However, since they are both under 10 years old, then that means *anything* Liz does could be deemed "for the boys."  Trustees have a *great* deal of discretion when it comes to determining how much income is "necessary" for the beneficiary's lifestyle, so it's not like she's on some kind of tight budget.

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I dunno.  I think the Liz haters are reading too much into this.  The only time they have shown Liz be a bad mother is during this whole Niz mess when she left Jake at the hospital to go see Nik, and when she woke Cake up in the middle of the night to go see Nik.  And both times, she didn't leave her kids in danger because they were being taken care of by someone.  Other than that, she was like any other mom on the show.  Even Carly left her kids while going to a different continent, twice, once to help Jason with the Alcazar murder trial, and then to find Jax.  Both times with crazy Jerry I think.  Did she give a thought as to what would happen to her kids if she got killed along the way? My point is, until recently, Liz has been a good mother.  She even ran into a burning house to get Jake out.  She did what any other mother on this show would do.  She was a good single mother for a long time, earned her living, and even when she was with Lucky and he was on drugs she took care of Cameron by herself.  And so what if she drops her kids off at Gram's when she needs too.  All the women on this show drop their kids off somewhere or have nannies take care of them.  They don't show what happens off screen and how much the mom's actually spend time with their kids.  Carly even had a nanny get Josslyn ready for the baptism or whatever when Carly herself was in the house.  You always see Alexis and Carly doing all kinds of things when they are not at work without their kids.  So to say she uses Gram too much is crap.  The only person they show with their kid when they are not at work is Robin.  And even she finds time to go to Jake's when Emma is with the nanny.  This whole Niz storyline was written poorly.  It seems like it was written to make Liz look really really bad.  In no way, would Liz have slept with Lucky's brother or been a bad mother before this stupid storyline.  I feel like they just want everyone to feel sorry for Lucky since JJ is back (and I love JJ so it's not a crack on him) and is using Liz to do it.  Esp. when Lucky was telling Ethan about all times Liz cheated on him, once with Jason and then with Nik, but failed to mention how Lucky (when GV played him) was a jealous prick who got hooked on drugs, and slept with Maxie causing Liz to go to Jason in the first place.  He was verbally and mentally abusive and called Liz out on sleeping with Patrick when she really wasn't.  He was jealous of Jason even when Liz always called Lucky for help first.  He was just a prick.  But now, let's forget all that since JJ is back and make Liz the horrible person that wronged Lucky without cause.  I get that this whole Niz affair is 100% Liz and Nik's fault, but it really is out of character for both Nik and Liz because neither would have betrayed Lucky this bad.  And the whole not using protection thing (even though no one admitted that was the case) is crap too.  At least with Jason they showed the condom was defective.  Now they want Liz to look even worse than she already does by implying that she didn't use protection with Lucky or Nik, and that she didn't consider the fact that she might get pregnant given though she already went through a paternity mess.  Sloppy sloppy poor writing.  They could have written BH's pregnancy into the storyline without making it a paternity thing.  They could have Nik say "We used protection" and Lucky say "We didn't" and made the baby Lucky's from the start.  But no, why would they do that if they can just recycle storyline's while making Liz look bad in the process.  I hate these writers.

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i have to agree with samrocks.(except for the whole liz hater thing)LOL

the way they handled the situation was pretty realistic, and consistent with how most hospitals handle a potentially suicidal case.

the only thing that was off, was nik being there. lucky i'm sure is on her paperwork as emergency contact, and he is the "father" of her children. so that gives him legal right to discuss her case,  with the attending physician, who is her brother. 
nik is nothing but a family friend to her, and has no right what so ever to be discussing her case, unless she has given written consent. I am of course biased. I've hated Nik since he cheated on Em with CoHo,, because Em couldn't get over being raped by his look-a-like.

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Sorry, still not feeling Jason and Sam.  They always seem forced to me and akward together.

Dr. Matt Hunter saw Elizabeth first.  I assume he ran blood work and that is when Dr. Kelly Lee got involved.

Ravennite I agree with you- I also am not understanding why all of sudden Liz cannot live without Lucky.  Not sure I am liking where this story is going but I thought Becky Herbst did a good job yesterday of acting out her desperation.

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samrocks, if Liz was using the money for herself, she wouldn't need to work at GH, she wouldn't be begging for job back, she could be driving a fancy car, take the boys on vacation, buy the new house she wants with that money, she could do so much with that money.  The fact that she still works and still budgets, like when she and Lucky were making plans for the house, shows that she's not using the 5 mill.  She wouldn't be so stressed out if she just dipped into that money every now and then and got herself a nice spa day once a week and massaged all her troubles away Smile.

Oh and as for Kelly Lee being her doctor, could it be that it was another physician that saw her and once the blood results showed she was pregnant, Kelly was contacted and took over?

And as for Liz always needing a man, Carly and Sam are like that too.  They are always with men or have men take care of them.  I think Liz, Carly, and Sam are with men more than they are without.  Sam was single for a little while right after Lucky, but now she's back with Jason so we'll see how that goes. Alexis is the only real single woman/parent on this show.