I love NY Undercover. Jamey, do you think that Ashley would get a sonogram at home instead of the hospital? I don't believe that mess for a bit.

New York Undercover was an urban hit. it never even cracked the top 30.

I love NY Undercover. Jamey, do you think that Ashley would get a sonogram at home instead of the hospital? I don't believe that mess for a bit.

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With Ash all paranoid about Estella and thinking she's trying to drive her cuckoo for cocoa puffs, I can buy it. Plus rich folks don't always go to the hospital for stuff. Look at Michael Jackson.

Ok, I can buy the sonogram at home, but if the baby is dead, how the heck it isn't beating or having a pulse? But it is a soap so you just have to go with it. I like Adam getting at Victor, but not at the expense of Ashley, Estella and Rafe.

Jamey,

No I didn't like LML either. I can't cut this show slack. They wrote themselves into the realistic corner. Which was a good thing. Y&R was more of the grown people's soap. It use to make you think from time to time. It was mostly "Rooted in reality". All I know is that in an intimate interview Bill Bell named the ways to save the industry. This kind of mess on the list of things not to do. He is turning over in his grave now.

Now I have said that at the top of my list was Sally Sussman Morina. Aside from Ron Carlivati and Morina this industry is lost.

I remember when Agnes made a short return to AMC. She brought that show back from the depths of hell.

People were just hailing Hell as the second coming of Christ too quickly and she turned out to be devil in disguise. (*sighs*) I could write this show in my sleep and come up with better plotlines.

Siomonstuart2003,

There is no baby. Ergo, there is no heartbeat or pulse. The doctor is faking all of the baby's data. The sonogram was was a recording. Doctors can provide mothers with a DVD recording of her sonogram.

but not at the expense of Ashley, Estella and Rafe.
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But that's what makes it good, suspensful drama. Of course we don't want bad things to happen to our favorite characters, but if it didn't, you'd have no story. Scarlett could have stayed on Tara, eating barbecue and fussing with her Mammy for the whole four hours of Gone With The Wind, but that wouldn't have been nearly as epic.

Didn't Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes have a sonogram in house?

David,

I think it's fair to say that most of agree with you about the lack of diversity on soaps. We would very much like to see not only more actors of color but have them be given stronger, powerful storylines. Similarly, having more gay characters would be great also.

Y&R is going to give Christel Khalil a front burner story that should bring in the Winters clan as she deals with ovarian cancer. That's a good start. Not the best but a good start.

OLTL seems to be trying to increase the presence of its actors of color. I'm excited about Layla and Christian. They're both great characters and the actors who portray them are beautiful.

OLTL is also growing the Evans family. Have you done anything to support the show?

All I know is that in an intimate interview Bill Bell named the ways to save the industry. This kind of mess on the list of things not to do. He is turning over in his grave now.
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David, go look up Bill Bell's actual storylines, then we will talk. Long before Carly was buried alive on DAYS, Lauren Fenmore was on Y&R.

*Victor Newman locked his wife's lover in a dungeon.

*Brad's first wife kept him prisoner in a secret cell.

*David Kimble had the words KILLER scratched into his face by a plastic surgeon and then died via  trash compactor.

*Sheila Carter had a baby receive plastic surgery to remove his birth mark, in order to keep Lauren from recognzing it was her son.

Those are just a few of his "realistic stories" from Y&R. On DAYS he penned a story where a brother returned from the Korean War, presumed dead, with a new face and then fell with his sister, who was so distraught she became a nun. Bill was a masterful storyteller, but he also knew how to spin larger than life yarns. I bet he would be proud of his daughter-in-law.

Jamey,

Off topic, do you have any plans to highlight OLTL's actors of color and their storylines?

Josstheguy,

OLTL is on my lineup I watch it and am loving it. I keep calling Ebony telling them they need to highlight them in the magazine.

I am going to wait and see about Lily's cancer s/l and hope that it is good.

I am loving OLTL and hope that Daniel Cosgrove and Gina Tognoni come to as Joey and Kelly.

David,

OLTL's black characters develop a following, they'll get more storyline and airtime. OLTL seems to be integrating them well into the cast.

OLTL did a good job with the Gannons. They were never segregated. I do miss RJ. He was a great villain. RJ and Lindsay were a hot couple. I wish Catherine Hickland and Timothy Stickney were back on canvas.

Jamey,

Off topic, do you have any plans to highlight OLTL's actors of color and their storylines?

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I am waiting for them to breakout a bit first. They are close. I am loving Daphne, GAWD I wish she could have been Lily Winters.

Jamey,

I know those things happened and look at the distance in time between the those storylines. Bell did not have all the storylines seeped in nuttiness.

Soaps were setup in a way where if you didn't like something you could fast forward through it the stuff you didn't like. He would have never had followed this template. Yes he would on occasion go there. And yet it wasn't no bam, bam, bam. These storylines are so interconnected that you can't even escape the nuttiness.

I know you like Days and I would be okay with this stuff over there. The show wrote itself into that corner. So I don't expect them to ever be serious. But not Y&R. When people stop referring to Y&R as the template for other soaps to follow you know something is wrong. Y&R is now like all the other soaps an incarnation of whomever is at the helm.

All i'm waiting to hear is that Kay, Jill, and Nina are going to be kidnapped and kept in a day spa and people getting killed with potassium chloride... They will be there any day.

By the way Yes the baby thing with Ashley is not even "good horrible". It's just horrible.

Ditto Jamey I would love her as Lily. "see..." as Shug Avery said "even Playmates have soul."

What about Brook Kerr as Lily?

Lily at death door? It would be great for KSJ and Bryant.

Josstheguy,

I think or hope Ron saw a way to upstage Y&R and bring on the diversity. Maybe he has been surfing the net and came across these posting and thought well you know what we need to get back to what it use to be here. I would be a great nod to history of Carla (Ellen Holly) returned as a judge. Last time she was there she was an attorney. I like Terrell Tilford. I've already got someone doing the Rachael Gannon and Shaun video clips.

Jamey....AMEN!!!!
The young and the restless has been hot for quite a while now I can't wait to watch the next episode,whatever character you take they;re all in major storylines,I'm really really excited about this show it finally reminds me of the good old days back in the 80's.MAB and her team rocks!I'm HOOKED!

although I feel really bad for Ashley!!!

Jamey,

Thanks. I think they need time and nurturing. Daphne's about 7 years too old to play Lily. If you put her next to Kristof St. John, she would look to close to his age.

I like both Khalil's and Sherwood's interpretations of Lily. There would be no Lane had neither of those two women been successful.

What I would love is for Victoria Rowell to rejoin the show and have her real life daughter Maya Fahey join as Dru's long lost daughter. I'd love a storyline where Dru had another daughter while in France but let the father raise the child.

That storyline would really be exciting since it would involve more secrets, betrayal, and race.

Think of the tension between Lily and her new sister. Neil and Dru could be involved in a love triangle with Dru's ex-lover, Jean Luc (Picard).

Simon,

I remember someone telling me that CK and BM went to the br "ass" at Y&R and stated that they couldn't be paired together. Not that believe it, because she doesn't have that kind of clout. But if she did and they listened then she should take her ass up there any say "Hey? Um when I be paired with a black man?"

I'm just sayin' can a brotha get some love or what?

Josstheguy,

Devetta was not that great of an actress in the role acting wise. She also deviated from what Lily's upbringing was...but then again, in that case she would have had a French accent. Yet still I would take her back any day. And I know they would have given her black love interest after Daniel. I never imagined Devetta's version of Lily dating a white man like Daniel she would go for more of the Slim Shady type of white man.

I take Devon and Lily. I have Devon realize his love for her and after Lily is out of the coma, have her fall for him.

FROM: josstheguy

As of the week before last when Phillip returned, Y&R's ratings have returned to their 5 million viewer mark of last year.

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That's not the even the entire population of the state Massachusetts. Y&R used to have way more viewers than 5 million. We hate to admit that the storylines contribute to why people stop watching soaps. Lets face, the genre is not what it used to be. Writers often times write ridiculous stories and expect us viewers to swallow it without any hesitation. Heck no, that's why I am glad my DVR have a fast forward button, so I can fast forward through awful stories and most times I completely skip it altogether. Why is it so hard to put on realistic storylines?

I take Devon and Lily. I have Devon realize his love for her and after Lily is out of the coma, have her fall for him.
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I could work with that. I could map out 5 year plot line. Including Roxanne becoming a villain and recasting Det. Gil with Lamman Rucker.

David,

I disagree. First, Daniel and Lily had a lot in common since both were raised as American expatriates living with single parents in Europe. Daniel was a cute, angsty bad boy artist. He would be Lily's type. Why would Lily want to go for the Slim Shady type?

Sherwood's only failing for me was her accent not being more suburban. Lily wouldn't have had a French accent because she would have learned to speak English at home and in school.

MET,

It is the same reason why people point a few out there storylines as the excuse for Hell to have all the storylines written out there. And Bill Bell knew when something didn't work he ended it. Now-a-days in soaps they just keep moving on.

End the dead fetus s/l, the Chipmunk and Scooby Doo adventures, MJ hello kitty, and the Sharon opening her drawers to half the town, who next. She probably do Deacon and Daniel next or she will combust. Isn't it look like Deacon want both Daniel and Amber for himself?