General Hospital's Tristan Rogers Speaks Out on MonaVie-Gate
Daytime Confidential's 2008 Male Performer of the Year, Tristan Rogers, has spoken out on his MySpace blog about this whole MonaVie situation.
It’s one thing to sell a product to John Q. Public. There is nothing implicit in this arrangement other than the product is what it is and does nothing more or less than what it is advertised to do. It’s another thing all together to sell the same product to a group of people who look up to you, and perhaps worth ship the ground you walk
on. When dealing with people at this level it is MOST important that you are not seen to be “selling” something. Rather, the product is presented in a sincere way and it is presented for what it is.Questions regarding this product must be answered in a way that do not infer the product could be something more than it appears to be."
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23 July 2008
2 weeks 6 days
Who the hell does he think is? Ingo Rademacher?
18 February 2009
5 weeks 12 hours
This is all news to me. I Google MonaVie and found out a bit about it, but nothing I could find explains to me why Rogers is commenting on it. Pardon my being out of the loop, but I can't find a connection. Can anyone help? I've only been a DC visitor for a couple of weeks, so if this has been discussed before, sorry for being a dunce.
31 July 2008
1 week 3 days
Well, Steve Burton and a few others on GH sell it, but I only know about SB, maybe someone knows more. I know he sells this at his fan events and has flyers printed up and passed out at the annual GH event. I remember seeing pictures of that. It's a pyramid scheme and he's gotten flac for it.
I applaud Tristen for saying this, I think selling to your fans at a fan event is wrong. Especially if you saved up to go because buying a ticket to a fan event is expensive and most people can't aqforsd to spend $40 on flavored water.
24 March 2008
6 days 16 hours
Isn't it interesting that in the last issue of abcd SID they did a story how Steve's involvement with MonaVie & a portion of proceeds will be used to support his charity work?
I also heard rumors that Anne Sweeney was up in arms about the scene they did with Jason, Clawdia & Spinelli & the healing magic juice. Rumor was that Tropicana, a sponsor, was upset & pulling their ads & that "heads would roll" (oh please let it be Frons & Guzas) Again, take this with a grain of salt.
I don't think IR should be making any comments since he already has a sweet deal with GH for all the time he takes off. And TR, thankfully, always speaks his mind & doesn't care who he might piss off. I think he was mostly looking at the legal implications. jmho
Very interesting post, Jamey! And I love the Jackie Zeman interview as well. Great to hear from of the "original heart & soul" of GH!
15 July 2008
56 min 31 sec
kat I am going to have to go look up that article. What percentage? Pre-tax or does it give Burton a tax benefit? It may not be that much going to charity when all is said and done
Tons of folks at GH sell this and I guess I have mixed feelings about it. If it effects storyline - ie: the star of the show saying I want more scenes with Spin, Max, or Lizare to keep them front burner or if they are pushing it on fans at events ie: oh you bought a bottle, lets take a picture, then yeah I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of it.
21 May 2008
2 weeks 7 hours
Who cares about monavie! Emma Samms (Holly Scorpio) is coming back to GH and from the sound of Tristan's twitter comments, it looks like he won't be too far behind!
30 September 2007
2 years 11 weeks
Well, when you check out this site, http://monavieonthemove.com/fieldleaders.php you will see quite a few GH faces and names on there. They are among the top sellers and leaders in the Monavie pyramid.
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Tons of folks at GH sell this and I guess I have mixed feelings about it. If it effects storyline - ie: the star of the show saying I want more scenes with Spin, Max, or Lizare to keep them front burner or if they are pushing it on fans at events ie: oh you bought a bottle, lets take a picture, then yeah I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of it.
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Droves of fans want the "star" in scenes with Spinelli and Elizabeth. It has nothing to do with MonaVie.
14 January 2009
1 year 41 weeks
The fact that ABC allows it's employees to push a pyramid schemes and said products on it's fans kind of shows their lack of professional standing. If I went to work and pushed this on clients, I'd get written up or fired!
The whole MonaVie pyramid scheme is a total scam. I got cornered by these people on vacation once when they were having a convention... it's a way to make a buck as long as you don't have a moral conscience to peddle a useless product. (I guess that includes most of the product industry in and of itself-LOL!)
18 February 2009
5 weeks 12 hours
Thanks for all the info, everyone! I can't believe I never heard about this before. I agree with those who show up at a fan event to be hit with an unexpected infomercial. I've "been invited to dinner" twice in the past, only to learn that I was being "Amwayed". No, thank you!
15 July 2008
56 min 31 sec
Jamey thats why I said IF, I am not talking about what the droves of fans want (or DONT WANT) I am talking about how the Monavie pyramid scheme calls into question why certain actors may want a particular co-star or storyline...because it helps put monavie money in their pockets
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Jamey thats why I said IF, I am not talking about what the droves of fans want (or DONT WANT) I am talking about how the Monavie pyramid scheme calls into question why certain actors may want a particular co-star or storyline...because it helps put monavie money in their pockets
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I don't think it calls that into question at all. I think the whole "Steve uses MonaVie to control story" is all based in online rumors and gossip used to fuel the notion that Steve wanted to work with Becky out of some nefarious instinct.
I don't deal in rumors or innuendo, I deal in the facts when it comes to this stuff and the fact is, Frons came in and demaded that Steve be put back in a story with Kelly, that Maurice and Sarah work together again and that Claire, Greg and Rebecca be backburnered. My sources, the same ones who told me about the ABC-wide paycuts days before Ad Age, Conde Nast, or anyone else reported it, haven't failed me yet. Frons plays favorites, often times to the deteriment of this three shows. That's the story, not Steve Burton's fruit juice. Sure, it's a PR nightmare because TIIC were dumb enough to let him coax them into writing it into the show, but they weren't allowing him to use MonaVie to dictate storylines.
Liason was just as popular as JaSam, and Steve actually liked working with Rebecca, as opposed to Kelly. That isn't a slam against Kelly, and I am not even saying that it is right, but it is a fact. He doesn't enjoy working with Kelly. He killed their last storyline. Kelly, meanwhile was in a popular pairing with Greg. Frons just made four actors and half his soap's fanbase miserable, and for what? The ratings are down. Sure the JaSam fans can rejoice that their couple is on the way to a reunion, but the Liason fans, myself included, have basically tuned the show out. The major story here is how Frons wants these shows to resemble his own pervy fantasy of what's hot and what isn't. If he doesn't see the heat in a pairing, he kills it, fanbases be damned and that is where the problem began.
If Steve wanted to push storylines because of MonaVie, why didn't he insist or more of the Ric vs. Jason rivalry? I think this kind of stuff is reaching and speculative. I don't deal in speculation, I get my stuff from people in the know. This isn't just about GH. Frons is doing it at OLTL too. Why do you think we have Crystal Hunt forced down our throats in her panties?
15 July 2008
56 min 31 sec
So if Monavie has absolutely nothing to do with certain actors pushing for certain things and fan access being tied to monavie, why on earth would tristan and ingo speak out? If everything is on the up and up, why would they comment at all - since its mostly a pr nightmare because their own people are concerned.
Lets not make this about Jiz PLEASE. I dont want to have this debate for the 100th time. I am talking about Monavie.
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Lets not make this about Jiz PLEASE. I dont want to have this debate for the 100th time. I am talking about Monavie.
why on earth would tristan and ingo speak out?
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Um...they both said why. It was because they think it is irresponsible for an actor to use his fan's adoration to hawk a miracle elixer. Neither said anything about story control, or Burton using it to push Liason.
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LMAO You make it about Liason ETT, everytime! LOL You keep bringing up the "rumors" about Steve using MonaVie to push Liason. As if the couple's legion of fans aren't enough. You can't throw out innuendo and the say keep that out of the debate. Ingo, according to Nelson's sources, said it wasn't right for Steve to film MonaVie commercials at the GH studios or to sell it to fans claiming it was a miracle cure. Tristan said the same thing. Neither even hinted to this asinine "Steve is using MonaVie to push Liason" nonsense.
22 August 2007
2 weeks 14 hours
Guza drinks the juice as well... that's how they easily had it written in during that ridiculous virus thing with Spin, Jason and Claudia. A lot of GH castmembers peddle it, not just Steve or Rebecca's husband. Is it right to suck your fans into your "business venture?" Not in my opinion, no. But these fans are adults who make their own decisions.
14 November 2007
1 year 39 weeks
I read Tristan's blog and loved it. IA's likability factor jumped up about 100 points after he spoke out, and the same goes with Tristan. I like the fact that both of them seem to be looking out for fans and understand that w/ fame comes a responsibility that shouldn't be taken lightly
OT: Comment #12 is one of the most infuriating things I've read in awhile. Jamey is going to make me pop a blood vessel one of these days! But I've learned you can't argue with Fanfic...
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Jamey is going to make me pop a blood vessel
one of these days! But I've learned you can't argue with Fanfic...
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Fanfic? When have I posted fanfic in regards to GH? Of course, what I say infuruated you, because it's always me who starts the Liason vs. JaSam stuff right? Right. Sure. We can go with that one. Go back and read the thread. Am I going to debunk rumor and speculation that I know not to be the case? Sure, but I didn't make it about those two fanbases.
14 November 2007
1 year 39 weeks
Well there's this:
http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2009/02/breaking-news-sam-mccalls-hot...
Also, I would say that unless you can prove that SBu doesn't like KeMo, doesn't like working with her, killed her storyline, and that KeMo is (briefly) front burner again because of her breasts - then I *can't* call it fact - I call it Fanfic.
I never said that it was always you who starts stuff. When did I say that? There have been plenty of times when I've started it. I said your post was infuriating - I'm a Sam/KeMo fan so *of course* it was going to upset me. This surprises you?
Besides, I don't know what you're so upset about. I'm the one that's going to die of a popped blood vessel! (the coroner will surely call it Death by Giddens!)
9 February 2009
19 weeks 5 days
I think what is infuriating about it is the statement that Steve doesn't like working with Kelly. I certainly don't have inside sources like some people do, so I can't say that its not true, but I just don't know if *I* believe it. And to read about it again and again, and having it brought up when talking about Liason vs. JaSam, just makes me extremely sad.
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Daisy Clover I can't "prove" he killed the story any more than I can "prove" what was happening at Days or that ABC was gonna have massive paycuts, because I heard them from sources, and my sources told me Steve killed his last story with Kelly, which by the way, I don't condone. I don't believe in actors killing stories because they don't like working with someone, but it happened. Don't believe me, LOL, I am used to it. Maybe Agnes Nixon can go to a magazine and make that one all of the sudden "true" too...
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
I think what is infuriating about it is the statement that Steve doesn't like working with Kelly. I certainly don't have inside sources like some people do, so I can't say that its not true, but I just don't know if *I* believe it. And to read about it again and again, and having it brought up when talking about Liason vs. JaSam, just makes me extremely sad.
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This really isn't a secret. He has alluded to it at fan events, not to mention the interview he and Rebecca gave Digest a few months back. No he didn't talk about not wanting to work with Kelly, but he talked about how "bummed" he was that Liason was ending and how he didn't want Jason falling in love with anyone else anytime soon, an interview by the way, that he and Rebecca caught hell for. They were supposed to toe the company line and pimp their new pairings.
9 October 2008
1 week 14 hours
Wasn't that hot tub post a tongue-in-cheek posting?
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Wasn't that hot tub post a tongue-in-cheek posting?
The Spam-a-holics tend not to respond to my particular brand of humor. It's an acquired taste.
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Yep, all four cheeks!
9 February 2009
19 weeks 5 days
It may not be a secret, but its really hard to hear. I know about the interview and I know that both Steve and Becky have made their love for Liason known, but it just makes me, personally, upset that he doesn't enjoy working with Kelly. I guess I don't believe (or want to believe) that Steve Burton is that type of person.
Of course they're bummed, their couple never had a chance to ACTUALLY be a couple lol.
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
Is it right to suck your fans into your "business venture?" Not in my opinion, no. But these fans are adults who make their own decisions.
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TO me it's no different than Kristian Alfonso and her costume jewelry, Eric Braeden and his DVD's, or Susan Lucci and her miracle face cream—plastic surgeon not included—every star has a side hustle. As for it making promises it can't keep. You mean like Slim Fast, The Hollywood Diet, and that contraption Suzanne Somers says putting between two gigantic thighs will suddenly make them slim? What's the difference? And as for them letting him film it there, didn't Donna Love from Another World hawk those Caruso Hair Curler informercials from the hairdressing room at the show's old studio?
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
I guess I don't believe (or want to believe) that Steve Burton is that type of person.
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Just because he doesn't like working with someone doesn't make him a bad person. Certain people gel together, others don't. It doesn't make either bad people. My all time favorite supercouple EVER, Bo and Hope, (Peter Reckell and Kristian Alfonso) hated each others guts in the 80's when I adored them. Same for Nancy Lee Grahn and Lane Davis on SB. It happens., not saying Steve and Kelly hate each other, but he did kill their storyline.
22 August 2007
2 weeks 14 hours
Very true Jamey and that's pretty much my point. If you watch the news, you've heard of these pyrmaid schemes before. I've seen them in other avenues like gas and phone service providers. These fans are adults who ultimately make their own decision to join up. Is it slightly different then celebrity endorsed products? Yes because you sign up to sell Monavie as a source of income.
22 January 2008
7 hours 6 min
They're selling that mess in Wal-Mart. They're calling it Fruit-a-VIe. I busted out laughing when I saw it and thought of this wacky website. Then I snuck a bottle under my shirt and ran like the Dickens! Too bad the 80-year-old security guard tackled me to the ground, making my pants fall down around the ankles. All's I remember is the bottle crashing to the floor and people getting down on the ground to lick it up. True story.
9 February 2009
19 weeks 5 days
Oh by no means am I saying that he is a bad person lol, I just didn't think that he would kill their storyline. I dunno, I guess you could call me naive to want to believe that everybody loves working with everybody lol. Am I making any sense?? Haha lmao about the Wal-Mart story.
14 November 2007
1 year 39 weeks
Jamey, you mentioned something about you're being used to people not believing you... Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel this is a reference to how the "mainstream" soap press often dismisses scoops by online soap journalists/bloggers. But I don't see how that's related to what I'm saying. Whenever something isn't proven, then it's a rumor, IMO. And I decide whether *I* think it's true, false, partly true, etc... I don't just automatically believe everything I read.
That's not an insult to you or your reporting...I mean, I'm assuming you question everything that's told to you, right? Hasn't there been times when a fellow blogger has told you something and you doubted it because it just didn't sound right to you?