General Hospital Spoilers!
Here’s the Scoop! 03.11.09
Holly and Helena? Too much to handle? Obviously Holly’s return is being linked to Ethan and everyone who is anyone is hoping that Helena’s return means NotEmily is the RealEmily. Can you hear Frons’ campaign for that one? The real Emily returns…oh wait, she’s already there and we’ve been telling you her name is Rebecca…tune in. Some fans say Helena and Holly are the reasons for the POSSIBLE bloodbath hitting prospect studios (where GH is filmed). Emma Samms’ return SHOULD be a temporary gig with some saying she’ll be in Port Chuck and on our screens for roughly three weeks. Helena has never been a contract character (at least not to my knowledge) and I ASSUME that isn’t going to change. Two returns of recurring characters, one said to be brief, is that really a reason to let five actors go? The cuts hitting ABCDaytime are more likely a result of the crappy economy that is hitting everyone. I’m not giving Fronsie a free pass as there are plenty of newbie’s on my screen that really don’t need to be there especially not at the expense of some of my faves.
But the plan in that great mind of Brian Frons is to gain viewers back. To say General Hospital has been struggling in the ratings is an understatement. Yes, during the toxic ball crisis crap, GH had a boost but so did most of daytime. What once was a powerhouse in the soap world has now become a joke and is Helena Cassadine or Holly Sutton enough to boost the ratings? I’ve seen plenty of comments that Helena’s return will have fans tuning in, but when she is underused or given subpar material, will you stay simply because Helena is there? Does General Hospital want fair weather fans or stable viewers?
I’ve always said and most agree that it starts with GOOD WRITING. It doesn’t have to be spectacular, hell it doesn’t even have to be great but it better at least be GOOD. At times, GH gives us some good scenes, Monday’s scenes with Carly and Jason are a prime example of that but in no way is General Hospital consistently good. That in my opinion is the problem. But you’re all here to read SPOILERS and not why I am so disappointed in GH…
Jax finds out that Claudia ordered the hit that put Michael in a coma. Is he finding out another secret? SPOILERS say Jax also learns that Kate knew all about Claudia’s part in it and has kept her mouth shut. Will Jax spill what he knows to Carly or will he also keep his mouth shut thus putting his newly renewed marriage in jeopardy?
Patrick hits Jakes after another spat with the wife. That’s when he has a trivia head to head with no other than NASCAR’s Jeff Burton. Coleman turns fangirl and wants the driver’s autograph.
Maxie pulls out all the stops in her quest to save Spinelli. What about Winnie? She’s there to aid in saving the Jackal but Maxie will be her roadblock to Spinelli’s heart. Speaking of Spixie, what is going to happen with them? Well as I mentioned, Maxie declares her undying love for her BFF when she learns he has to leave the country to avoid prison. Will TPTB give Spixie fans a Spixie relationship? Johnny and Maxie have been heating up the screen and RUMORS say they’ll continue on as Crimson’s poster couple but Spixie fans just MAY get what they’ve been hoping for. I like both Spixie and JoMax so it’s a win-win for me but what happens to Johnny if Spixie gets the go ahead? Hopefully he’s not sentenced to Lulu hell. We SHOULD see a little Ethan-Lulu-Johnny triangle of sorts happening as Lulu is spending too much time with the mysterious Aussie and Johnny isn’t happy about it.
Ethan…What’s coming up besides more time with the shrieking bandit? Well RUMORS have him mixing it up with the Q’s and with Holly hitting town in time for May Sweeps, I’d say it’s safe to say Ethan will have a role in the Sweeps story as Holly is the reason he’s in PC. I said a few weeks back that IF Ethan is Robert and Holly’s son; both would have to return, right? The LATEST CHATTER is that Tristan Rogers COULD be making a return as well. One theory however, had Luke stepping in as a “father figure” for Ethan, taking the place of the absent Robert. Ummm… I know the writers devalue the Spencer’s, but how about Luke act like a father to his own kids and then we’ll worry about someone else’s.
Where’s Ric Lansing? Is he off mourning his father’s death? Is he stock piling his secrets? With the RUMORS that Rick Hearst MAY be leaving GH behind I’d hope they’d use the Emmy Winner while they had him. At least set up a kick ass exit story cause dropping him to recurring is a dumb move as some other soap will most definitely pick him up. RUMORS say Ric will find out about Claudia’s involvement in Michael’s shooting as well. Question is, what will he do with the info? Will Ric have another secret up his sleeve? Remember there were RUMORS that Trevor would reveal he was Johnny’s true father but that never happened before his swan dive off GH’s rooftop. The other RUMORS around Trevor’s death were that Ric would get that valuable dock property back in Trevor’s will. Could Trevor’s will hold some of the secrets Ric is RUMORED to be holding?
Sorry NEM fans, I’m sort of hooked on NotEmily and Lucky. Even if Rebecca turns out to be the real deal Emily Quartermaine, I still say the most story potential is a Lucky-Em/Rebecca-Nikolas triangle.
A few for the road… Jason will be wearing a wire. Is that what saves Spin from a trip around the world? Holly mixes it up with Luke, Ethan and Lulu. Robin and Patrick fight, she skips out and finds a bar with a bartender who listens well. It’s not that Brad character, it’s a lady, and hence the listens well part. Brad is a handsome stranger Robin meets and he asks her out. She says no at first. Who’s the hottie playing Brad? An actor named Tony Daly who’s appeared on Cold Case, CSI:NY and Swingtown. Sarah Brown was right, he’s hot and is it just me or does he look a little like Tom Pelphrey?
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14 November 2007
3 years 2 weeks
I understand what you're saying EET, but I still think it's unfair, and understanding TPTB motives doesn't change that for me. In a way, it makes it worse.
For instance, you mentioned TPTB placing more value on male cast members than on the women (which I agree with). Well, the show is male dominiated, the women are used as props, and the show revolves around a handful of male characters while the females have been made expendable, imo. So yeah, taking that into account, it's understandable why TPTB treat the women like crap. They have devalued women on that show, so therefore, from their perspective, it makes sense to bend over backwards for the men and seemingly treat the women differently. Do I understand why they think this way? Yup. Is it fair? I certainly don't think so.
And it's ironic. This emphasis on a handful of men means TPTB treat them like gods so they won't lose them, for fear of the damage it'll do to the show. Yet it's been this pimping of men and devaluing of women that has lead GH down the toilet ratings-wise and creatively, IMO. So yeah, giving SBu, MB, Ingo, TG what they want and screwing over others keeps the status quo intact - but is that a good thing?
I understand that's the way things work, but it just sucks...
31 March 2008
3 years 47 weeks
Regan I couldn't have said it better than you. Can you send your post to the higher ups? I think the majority of us feel the same way you do.No need for newbies when we have great characters already that are not used properly and that drives me crazy. I thought the same thing you did, when Helena comes back will they mess it up? I am still upset with all the hype when Genie Francis came back and I didn't like the storyline they gave her. I am sure with Helena, we will probably see the same type of story they gave when Lucky came back, again Guza/Frons forgets that the fans have saw this already, they are hoping the teenagers of today didn't see it again trying to get through to the "younger audience" as he calls it and forgetting the real fans who have watched GH for years and can tell you every storyline there ever was.
I think this new guy will be Dante.
15 July 2008
1 day 14 hours
I guess its symantics Daisy. I think its rotten, stupid, shortsighted and a host of other words that arent allowed here LOL, but its not "unfair" We arent disagreeing about those aspects. Really I think it would be curious to see who fans have as their all time top ten characters of daytime - not who shaped the industry most or most name id or whatever, but the characters that you loved the most and tuned in for. I think most of the list would be female dominated. I cant say who my final list would be, but I know that Carly Corinthos, brenda Barrett, Sam McCall, Anna DeVane, Laura Webber, Blair Cramer, Dorian Lord, Skye Whitney, Ava Rescott, Siobhan Ryan and Erica Kane would all be up there for consideration. Ironically off the top of my head, I can really only think of 3 men that I think I would even consider for the list - MB, TG and TR.
1 December 2007
2 years 16 weeks
I think it is interesting in debating whether men and women are treated with equality in daytime, you have named female characters but male actors. I don't know what that means for your argument but it is interesting.
As for my top ten characters of daytime, I wouldn't include Sonny at all. I might consider Robert Scorpio. I would have Luke Spencer and Frisco Jones on my list. I would have to include Mac Cory and Bo Buchanon. I would have to consider who would round out my top five males. Would it be Jason or Lucky? I really don't know because I also love Edward Q. Women are easier. I love Laura Spencer and Rachel Cory. Vicki Buchanon and Hope Brady would round out the list that would have to include Liz Webber who edges out Leslie Webber.
9 October 2008
11 weeks 5 days
This is just a simple thought but aren't great soap operas about telling a good story?
And if there is not a good story worth watching, the rest doesn't matter.
Anyone who reads the fan boards knows there are scores of fans waiting for an improvement in writing before tuning back in.
As a soap fan, I could care less about ABC's profit/loss statement. Give me a story that I can't wait to watch. And I'll be back.
As long as EGO is running the show and not good writing, improvement ain't gonna happen.
As always Regan, thanks for the great spoilers.
27 January 2008
3 years 12 weeks
Just because we don't like the idea of 5 actors getting the boot or going to recurring or what not doesn't mean that we don't get it's a business. But here's the thing...if a store that I go to doesn't sell what I want to buy anymore, I stop going.
It's this simple for me as an old time viewer. You cut the last ties for me and I walk. I think a lot of viewers feel that way or have already acted upon it.
Amy I illogically, unbusinesslike, emotionally holding onto something that I shouldn't be? Ha...maybe but it's my perogative as the person with the remote control that I click it off and I don't watch all those pretty ads that their advertisers pay for.
I think a lot of GET that it's a business but we think it's being run by somebody making the wrong decisions.
14 November 2007
3 years 2 weeks
OT: pxblbarrel, someone sent me a GH YouTube video (Susan Moore Murder story) and I noticed it was posted by you (unless there's another pxblbarrel GH fan out there, lol)! I've watched a few parts so far, and it's great! Thanks for posting it
btw, that Jimmy Lee Holt was Hot Stuff!
15 July 2008
1 day 14 hours
That was my initial point sueboo, for me its wrongheaded to value the men more than the women because at least from my vantage its the female characters that drive my viewing. That said I just polled about ten soap watching friends and the lists were all about 50-50 or male dominated. My list was the only one that was female heavy. I would be curious with a larger sample size what trend we would see. Shot my theory straight to hell LOL
JMIAH I totally agree with you on the writing. I think we all actually agree on that point. My only spin was that the good writing has to come within the parameters of a budget. Theres no reason tptb cant do that, so I am not sure why we are getting so much dreck, but all I was saying is that the days of people getting paid without story planned is probably over, esp. in this economy.
PXL I dont disagree with you either, hence why I called it Rotten, shortsighted etc. I think the biggest problem with some of these characters is that they cut them off a long time ago from storyline potential. I have to imagine its a bit hard to write for Monica without Alan or another male in that age range on canvas, when all of her extended children are dead or removed from her, and when her (Monica's not LC's) closest friends are played by actresses already on recurring. Back when Michael first got shot, I had said that I thought it was a bad move not to have the Q's more involved in that story and have Monica and Carly make some peace. I was also bummed when tptb wrote Lizard as not wanting to tell Monica about Jake. I guess I have sort of assumed now for awhile based on those two decisions that when her contract expired LC could well get offered recurring. Those were the two most logical jump off points for her to have had story and they didnt take either. maybe thats why I dont SEEM as upset by her being on less as others, but believe me thats not the case. And remember I am also the person that said make Robert Scorpio or Jeff Webber sam's father. Jeff webber's return would have given monica story and would have fueled Sam/Lizard rivalry for years. Most folks slammed me for the HORRIBLE thought (in their view) of Sam being tied to a core family like the Webbers, without seeing that I was also thinking this was good for all the characters surrounding that return.
27 January 2008
3 years 12 weeks
Daisy,
thanks. I'm currently doing the Asian Quarter stuff...I just had to edit out a sweaty, barechested Jimmy Lee working out at the spa (and being leered at by Lorena) because he wasn't in the storyline. Too too bad. LOL
Now, see...like him or hate him, Jimmy Lee is a Quartermaine and he and his family could always be brought in to repopulate the Q's. Monica could then have somebody to spar with, other than Tracy, and Edward could have somebody else to be disappointed with (since Alan's dead). His children would be the right age for everybody else on this show (under 25). It's a shame they don't explore this side of the Q's...or any side for that matter.
24 March 2009
4 years 8 weeks
I think Tony Daly looks like Jeffory Dean Morgan from Supernatural.
24 March 2009
4 years 8 weeks
I think Tony Daly looks like Jeffory Dean Morgan from Supernatural.