I never agree with her politcs but it's always three (sometimes four) against one. What happened to the diverse group that was supposed to make up this panel?
I think Elisabeth is good at debating BUT I wish it wasn't so obvious that she's going off of talking pionts. It used to be you could tell when she was talking about what she personally believed and what were talking points, now everything has become talking points. Not that the others don't have their own talking points, because they do, but it isn't the same as it used to be.
Sylar? Luke, IMO Elisabeth is, "so-so," on debating but when she can't get anyone to agree with her or see her side of things she decided to play dirty. She brings up things that ARE NOT relevant to the issue at hand.
She is ganged up on, but she SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS at debating. When she doesn't get her way she starts shrieking like some prehistoric bird and crying like a five-year-old and that's even when Barbara or Sherri are on her side.
I can understand why Elisabeth believes how she believes. She's a beautiful, perfect, blonde, with a husband, a home a white picket fence, tons of money and a baby (or two? I forget.) in the baby carriage and she's heterosexual. Hell, I'd be a "conservative" too! the system TOTALLY works for her! LMAO
She is ganged up on, but she SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS at debating. When she doesn't get her way she starts shrieking like some prehistoric bird and crying like a five-year-old and that's even when Barbara or Sherri are on her side.
See I purposely left that part out because I wanted someone to pick up on that. *LOL* Yeah when girlie can't get her own way she shows out like a kid that was told no to getting more ice cream. Sherri always defended Hasslecrack but I guess it got too much for her when Ole' girl decided to play dirty.
my gosh what a crybaby. EH of all people, telling Sheri "you're getting personal, calm down, relax." good God. Stop you're shrieking, EH, stop your crying and act like an adult. Every darn time they ask her something about her party, she turns it around on the democratic party, without even answering a question. It's ridiculous. I truly wish they would replace her with an adult.
That woman has no clue about what it's like to be on food stamps, to wonder where your next paycheck is coming, how your going to feed and clothe your kids, live in a neighborhood without picket fences, what it's like to be a person of ethnicity, to know that the home you bought with your life savings is about to be taken away, to know what it's like to pay 400.00 in medication that insurance will not cover, bill collectors calling you all day and night, to work in a job you can't stand but you need to pay the rent somehow or you'll get evicted....I could go on but I won't I am just fired up forgive me!
my gosh what a crybaby. EH of all people, telling Sheri "you're getting personal, calm down, relax." good God. Stop you're shrieking, EH, stop your crying and act like an adult. Every darn time they ask her something about her party, she turns it around on the democratic party, without even answering a question. It's ridiculous. I truly wish they would replace her with an adult.
Yet another thing I left out because I wanted to see if someone picked up on that also. Nobody ever tells her to calm down and relax when she screams like a damn banshee but only when Sherri gets up in the crack of her ass she decided to pull that out. I also loved when the audience agreed with Sherri she decided to act like a tot once again and say something like, "I never expect to get cheers from the audience." Like that's really going to make me root for her. She needs to stop acting like a petulant child and grow some. Just because she sunned (ny saying) Rosie doesn't mean she's a qualified comentator. It just means that she got one up on Ro because Ro didn't stoop to her level of mud slinging.
Conservative doesn't mean having your head so far up your butt that you could give yourself a colonoscopy. I can see that if you haven't lived in other people's shoes that you wouldn't necessarily know what they are going through but there is a little thing called understanding and compassion.
The Hannity's and Hasselbeck's of the world are not conservative. They are right wing nut jobs who can't see pass their own reflections in the mirror and the sound of their pretty little voices to consider that there is even the inkling of a possibility that they may be wrong.
We all have our own belief system where we think we are right and others are wrong. That's why they are our beliefs. But the crap that occasionally spews out of her mouth can be hypocritical, ridiculous and downright retarded.
For a long time I sympathized w/ Elisabeth, especially, when she cried during that discussion about the use of the n word (I agreed w/ her POV there). But after yesterday's and again today's episode that sympathy has waned. Either educate yourself on the facts and come prepared to bring it or go home!
Her condescending atttitude toward Sherri really pissed me off!
Elisabeth is patently delusional if she thinks the Democrats are to blame for the subprime crisis. How many Democrat banking CEO's just got cut fat severence packages??? Something tells me those fellas won't be voting left. Dear God in heaven. Kudos to Babs for showing she can still reign them in though, I say she won!
My comments were directed at her and her alone, not because she is a conservative but because she has no clue, plain and simply. I have friends who are conservative who have struggled in life, but the crap that comes out of her mouht even shocks them.
Good god! can't they find an INTELLIGENT conservative? Perhaps "The Veiw" keeps her on to make other conservatives look bad? The reason Elizabeth is so often "ganged up on" is because she insists on repeating the most ridiculous and insulting rhetoric. She does nothing, NOTHING to further her own cause. . Her inane babbling is so transparently one sided its embarrassing. I would find her devout loyalty refreshing if her debates weren't completely devoid of any merit. Time and time again she comes off as a close minded, ignorant, hypocritical bigot that will opt for regurgitated media lies over truth or logic.
She's just a sad excuse for a conservative woman and I really wish the show would replace her with someone with a functioning brain and a modest amount of debating skill.
I must agree with everyone who has said that it's not Elizabeth's conservatism that is at issue. As for the other hosts, Joy can be very grating sometimes and Whoopi has a tendency to oscillate from confrontation to avoidance. And Sherri does react personally to issues at times. At the very least, even in the most heated of debates, they know how to listen to the other side.
But Elizabeth is a wind up toy these days, almost mindlessly parroting talking points without ever acknowledging that the other side of the table may have a valid argument. Jamey and others hit it on the head too with her hypocritical shrieking and crying. Whenever Barbara has to calm her down, Elisabeth claims she's not upset but it's just "passion" on her part. So imagine my delight when Sherri so smoothly used the same argument when Elisabeth tried to call Sherri "angry."
On a day when US stocks lost another 500 points, Wells Fargo and Citigroup are fighting over Wachovia, a $25 billion auto industry bailout, a $7 billion bailout for California, New Orleans still not rebuilt, a devastated Galveston & Houston & Baton Rouge, a day after the announcement of another 159,000 jobs were lost bringing the year's losses to over 700,00 nationally, Pakistan & Iraq & Iran & North Korea doing the Nuclear Hokey Pokey, and a looming recession/depression after a $850 billion shot in the arm which didn't staunch the stock market meltdown... I don't give a rat's diarrhetic ass about William Ayers, Rev. Wright, John Hagee, Charles Keating, or witch doctors if they do not have a direct and tangible bearing on the problems facing us at home and abroad.
Elisabeth, like the candidates she supports, would do herself a world of good if they could address the issues that people most care about instead of mindlessly parroting Bill O'Reilly's latest bullet points.
I have to agree with Regan on this one. There is not enough diversity left on the show. Bring in an independent! My political views put aside, Elizabeth gets ganged up on. I honestly wouldn't blame her if she left. Although, I'm sure there are lots of viewers that would be happy if she did!
My comment wasn't directed at your comment, Danielle. The funny thing is when I finished typing and posted my comment you had posted yours.
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Season, I just wanted to make sure you knew that I was not pointing out the fact that she is a conversative, but her comments what make her look stupid. And as for rodent bowel movements or gastrointestinal issues, yes that's just gross but I get the point! LOL
I actually watched yesterdays show and they ganged up on Elisabeth again and I changed the channel. I think Elisabeth is the youngest there and they treat her like a child sometimes, they need to make everyone speak on the show. Personally, I think Baraba was the winner she makes more sense than any of them.She is right, the world is in a financial mess and all these politicians are doing is smearing one another instead of trying to find a way to help the country and ease the peoples nerves. I think they both stink and I don't thinnk either one is going to help our country out of this mess.
I totally agree the panel isn't balanced but I think you'd have a hard time finding an independent or even another conservative "celebrity" to join the show. For several reasons.
1. Liberal celebrities outnumber conservatives by 100 to 1 at least. Very few conservative stars talk about their politics in Hollywood because being a conservative in Hollywood and talking about it will basically get them blacklisted. If they do they are usually some "past star" who doesn't have a major show or movie in production. Look at what happened to Angelina Jolie when she made one somewhat positive comment (and certainly not an endorsement) about McCain. She was ripped up one side and down the other for three days in the entertainment industry. Imagine if some A list star like Angelina "came out" as a Republican and joined The View? It would a feeding frenzy. The reason Liz has made it on the The View is because it was a step up from eating bugs on Survivor.
2. When is the last time any of us have seen an independent celebrity? Jesse Ventura maybe? Off the top of my head I can't think of a single independent female celebrity who has announced or appeared on TV to talk both sides of politics. How would you define said independent celebrity? Would they be socially moderate or liberal and fiscally conservative or vice versa?
3. The View could find an "unknown" independent but what person in their right mind would want to be thrown into that tinderbox? Sure, it would be great pay but at what cost to their personal sanity?
4. If The View was looking for a second conservative co-host to join Liz who in the world would they bring in? I honestly think the show likes having LIz be the "bimbo" conservative so that everyone else can gang up on her and so that Barbara can play mother hen from time to time. The moment a second conservative joined the show the entire dynamic would change and I don't think that any of the other four could handle it. Joy was just making faces like a child today and sticking out her tongue while Liz was talking to mock her. Sure most viewers probably are thinking the same thing but as a co host, even in a heated argument, it isn't appropriate.
5. If Liz were to leave for Fox, what then? Do you really want The View to turn into a spa day for liberal women who are going to agree on pretty much everything but a few minor points? No way would that be as much fun to watch. This isn't the Pre Rosie The View...This is a Post Rosie The View. They never discussed politics the way they do now before Rosie. Like it or not, Liz and her willingness to draw a line in the sand about her beliefs is the reason this show is staying relevant. People would start tuning out the moment they knew the hot topics were going to be love fests.
EH epitomizes what Palin is, a woman who has no curiosity beyond the talking points given to her. She stands for all of the lowbrow characteristics of the Republican administration these past 8 years, and for none of the reasons that made the party admirable during my grandparent's time. She talks about fiscal conservatism as if the Republicans practiced it, when our debt has reached unprecedented proportions since 2000. The View needs an independent/more intellectual Republican who understands what's happening in the world without having to resort to sensationalized and distorted facts in order to win a point
ETA: My pick would be Shannen Doherty - she's a Republican, outspoken, everyone expects her antics, and would use the "b*tch please" face
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9 September 2008
16 hours 44 min
The View these days is like Heroes!
But good.
22 January 2008
9 hours 48 min
Darn that Elisabeth. She's like Effie in Dream Girls.
"AND I AM TELLING YOOUUUU! I"M NOT GOING!"
22 August 2007
20 hours 45 min
I never agree with her politcs but it's always three (sometimes four) against one. What happened to the diverse group that was supposed to make up this panel?
16 August 2007
13 hours 56 min
I think Elisabeth is good at debating BUT I wish it wasn't so obvious that she's going off of talking pionts. It used to be you could tell when she was talking about what she personally believed and what were talking points, now everything has become talking points. Not that the others don't have their own talking points, because they do, but it isn't the same as it used to be.
23 July 2008
14 weeks 2 days
Oh, what I would give to have Sylar on this show!}:)
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15 May 2008
12 hours 22 sec
Sylar? Luke, IMO Elisabeth is, "so-so," on debating but when she can't get anyone to agree with her or see her side of things she decided to play dirty. She brings up things that ARE NOT relevant to the issue at hand.
23 July 2008
14 weeks 2 days
Sylar is a serial killer on the above mentioned show Heroes.
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22 January 2008
9 hours 48 min
She is ganged up on, but she SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS at debating. When she doesn't get her way she starts shrieking like some prehistoric bird and crying like a five-year-old and that's even when Barbara or Sherri are on her side.
3 October 2007
5 weeks 21 hours
There all sorts of things going through my mind about Elisabeth that I am too much of a lady to say or type!
22 January 2008
9 hours 48 min
I can understand why Elisabeth believes how she believes. She's a beautiful, perfect, blonde, with a husband, a home a white picket fence, tons of money and a baby (or two? I forget.) in the baby carriage and she's heterosexual. Hell, I'd be a "conservative" too! the system TOTALLY works for her! LMAO
12 February 2008
4 hours 59 min
Preach, Jamey! I wish I was rich fish sometimes, LOL!
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15 May 2008
12 hours 22 sec
12 July 2008
3 years 36 weeks
my gosh what a crybaby. EH of all people, telling Sheri "you're getting personal, calm down, relax." good God. Stop you're shrieking, EH, stop your crying and act like an adult. Every darn time they ask her something about her party, she turns it around on the democratic party, without even answering a question. It's ridiculous. I truly wish they would replace her with an adult.
3 October 2007
5 weeks 21 hours
That woman has no clue about what it's like to be on food stamps, to wonder where your next paycheck is coming, how your going to feed and clothe your kids, live in a neighborhood without picket fences, what it's like to be a person of ethnicity, to know that the home you bought with your life savings is about to be taken away, to know what it's like to pay 400.00 in medication that insurance will not cover, bill collectors calling you all day and night, to work in a job you can't stand but you need to pay the rent somehow or you'll get evicted....I could go on but I won't I am just fired up forgive me!
15 May 2008
12 hours 22 sec
Yet another thing I left out because I wanted to see if someone picked up on that also. Nobody ever tells her to calm down and relax when she screams like a damn banshee but only when Sherri gets up in the crack of her ass she decided to pull that out. I also loved when the audience agreed with Sherri she decided to act like a tot once again and say something like, "I never expect to get cheers from the audience." Like that's really going to make me root for her. She needs to stop acting like a petulant child and grow some. Just because she sunned (ny saying) Rosie doesn't mean she's a qualified comentator. It just means that she got one up on Ro because Ro didn't stoop to her level of mud slinging.
23 July 2008
14 weeks 2 days
Conservative doesn't mean having your head so far up your butt that you could give yourself a colonoscopy. I can see that if you haven't lived in other people's shoes that you wouldn't necessarily know what they are going through but there is a little thing called understanding and compassion.
The Hannity's and Hasselbeck's of the world are not conservative. They are right wing nut jobs who can't see pass their own reflections in the mirror and the sound of their pretty little voices to consider that there is even the inkling of a possibility that they may be wrong.
We all have our own belief system where we think we are right and others are wrong. That's why they are our beliefs. But the crap that occasionally spews out of her mouth can be hypocritical, ridiculous and downright retarded.
For a long time I sympathized w/ Elisabeth, especially, when she cried during that discussion about the use of the n word (I agreed w/ her POV there). But after yesterday's and again today's episode that sympathy has waned. Either educate yourself on the facts and come prepared to bring it or go home!
Her condescending atttitude toward Sherri really pissed me off!
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22 January 2008
9 hours 48 min
Elisabeth is patently delusional if she thinks the Democrats are to blame for the subprime crisis. How many Democrat banking CEO's just got cut fat severence packages??? Something tells me those fellas won't be voting left. Dear God in heaven. Kudos to Babs for showing she can still reign them in though, I say she won!
3 October 2007
5 weeks 21 hours
My comments were directed at her and her alone, not because she is a conservative but because she has no clue, plain and simply. I have friends who are conservative who have struggled in life, but the crap that comes out of her mouht even shocks them.
23 July 2008
14 weeks 2 days
My comment wasn't directed at your comment, Danielle. The funny thing is when I finished typing and posted my comment you had posted yours.
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6 October 2008
4 years 32 weeks
Good god! can't they find an INTELLIGENT conservative? Perhaps "The Veiw" keeps her on to make other conservatives look bad? The reason Elizabeth is so often "ganged up on" is because she insists on repeating the most ridiculous and insulting rhetoric. She does nothing, NOTHING to further her own cause. . Her inane babbling is so transparently one sided its embarrassing. I would find her devout loyalty refreshing if her debates weren't completely devoid of any merit. Time and time again she comes off as a close minded, ignorant, hypocritical bigot that will opt for regurgitated media lies over truth or logic.
She's just a sad excuse for a conservative woman and I really wish the show would replace her with someone with a functioning brain and a modest amount of debating skill.
23 July 2008
14 weeks 2 days
Let's look on the bright side, it could be Ann Coulter sitting in her chair! LOL!
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9 September 2008
16 hours 44 min
I must agree with everyone who has said that it's not Elizabeth's conservatism that is at issue. As for the other hosts, Joy can be very grating sometimes and Whoopi has a tendency to oscillate from confrontation to avoidance. And Sherri does react personally to issues at times. At the very least, even in the most heated of debates, they know how to listen to the other side.
But Elizabeth is a wind up toy these days, almost mindlessly parroting talking points without ever acknowledging that the other side of the table may have a valid argument. Jamey and others hit it on the head too with her hypocritical shrieking and crying. Whenever Barbara has to calm her down, Elisabeth claims she's not upset but it's just "passion" on her part. So imagine my delight when Sherri so smoothly used the same argument when Elisabeth tried to call Sherri "angry."
On a day when US stocks lost another 500 points, Wells Fargo and Citigroup are fighting over Wachovia, a $25 billion auto industry bailout, a $7 billion bailout for California, New Orleans still not rebuilt, a devastated Galveston & Houston & Baton Rouge, a day after the announcement of another 159,000 jobs were lost bringing the year's losses to over 700,00 nationally, Pakistan & Iraq & Iran & North Korea doing the Nuclear Hokey Pokey, and a looming recession/depression after a $850 billion shot in the arm which didn't staunch the stock market meltdown... I don't give a rat's diarrhetic ass about William Ayers, Rev. Wright, John Hagee, Charles Keating, or witch doctors if they do not have a direct and tangible bearing on the problems facing us at home and abroad.
Elisabeth, like the candidates she supports, would do herself a world of good if they could address the issues that people most care about instead of mindlessly parroting Bill O'Reilly's latest bullet points.
20 November 2007
13 hours 36 min
What is scary is fanaticism and Elizabeth is one of them about politic.
No nuances, lying a lot, having "one point of view" and the same for everyone, that is almost like a cult.
25 March 2008
1 week 2 days
I have to agree with Regan on this one. There is not enough diversity left on the show. Bring in an independent! My political views put aside, Elizabeth gets ganged up on. I honestly wouldn't blame her if she left. Although, I'm sure there are lots of viewers that would be happy if she did!
22 January 2008
9 hours 48 min
My issue with Elisabeth isn't just her politics. It's how silly she behaves. I couldn't stand Rosie either and I agree with most of her politics.
23 July 2008
14 weeks 2 days
Excellently put Bernard but can we keep the rat and his gastrointestinal problems out of it!
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3 October 2007
5 weeks 21 hours
My comment wasn't directed at your comment, Danielle. The funny thing is when I finished typing and posted my comment you had posted yours.
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Season, I just wanted to make sure you knew that I was not pointing out the fact that she is a conversative, but her comments what make her look stupid. And as for rodent bowel movements or gastrointestinal issues, yes that's just gross but I get the point! LOL
31 March 2008
3 years 47 weeks
I actually watched yesterdays show and they ganged up on Elisabeth again and I changed the channel. I think Elisabeth is the youngest there and they treat her like a child sometimes, they need to make everyone speak on the show. Personally, I think Baraba was the winner she makes more sense than any of them.She is right, the world is in a financial mess and all these politicians are doing is smearing one another instead of trying to find a way to help the country and ease the peoples nerves. I think they both stink and I don't thinnk either one is going to help our country out of this mess.
16 August 2007
13 hours 56 min
1. Liberal celebrities outnumber conservatives by 100 to 1 at least. Very few conservative stars talk about their politics in Hollywood because being a conservative in Hollywood and talking about it will basically get them blacklisted. If they do they are usually some "past star" who doesn't have a major show or movie in production. Look at what happened to Angelina Jolie when she made one somewhat positive comment (and certainly not an endorsement) about McCain. She was ripped up one side and down the other for three days in the entertainment industry. Imagine if some A list star like Angelina "came out" as a Republican and joined The View? It would a feeding frenzy. The reason Liz has made it on the The View is because it was a step up from eating bugs on Survivor.
2. When is the last time any of us have seen an independent celebrity? Jesse Ventura maybe? Off the top of my head I can't think of a single independent female celebrity who has announced or appeared on TV to talk both sides of politics. How would you define said independent celebrity? Would they be socially moderate or liberal and fiscally conservative or vice versa?
3. The View could find an "unknown" independent but what person in their right mind would want to be thrown into that tinderbox? Sure, it would be great pay but at what cost to their personal sanity?
4. If The View was looking for a second conservative co-host to join Liz who in the world would they bring in? I honestly think the show likes having LIz be the "bimbo" conservative so that everyone else can gang up on her and so that Barbara can play mother hen from time to time. The moment a second conservative joined the show the entire dynamic would change and I don't think that any of the other four could handle it. Joy was just making faces like a child today and sticking out her tongue while Liz was talking to mock her. Sure most viewers probably are thinking the same thing but as a co host, even in a heated argument, it isn't appropriate.
5. If Liz were to leave for Fox, what then? Do you really want The View to turn into a spa day for liberal women who are going to agree on pretty much everything but a few minor points? No way would that be as much fun to watch. This isn't the Pre Rosie The View...This is a Post Rosie The View. They never discussed politics the way they do now before Rosie. Like it or not, Liz and her willingness to draw a line in the sand about her beliefs is the reason this show is staying relevant. People would start tuning out the moment they knew the hot topics were going to be love fests.
12 January 2008
1 year 30 weeks
EH epitomizes what Palin is, a woman who has no curiosity beyond the talking points given to her. She stands for all of the lowbrow characteristics of the Republican administration these past 8 years, and for none of the reasons that made the party admirable during my grandparent's time. She talks about fiscal conservatism as if the Republicans practiced it, when our debt has reached unprecedented proportions since 2000. The View needs an independent/more intellectual Republican who understands what's happening in the world without having to resort to sensationalized and distorted facts in order to win a point
ETA: My pick would be Shannen Doherty - she's a Republican, outspoken, everyone expects her antics, and would use the "b*tch please" face